A lighthearted podcast about the practical use of HOP concepts in our personal and work worlds.
Episode 1 - Fundamental Attribution Error
May 24, 2023 • 24 MIN
So it begins... We'll discuss what we're doing with this podcast and where fundamental attribution error shows up in our lives. Also, homework?
Episode 3 - Safety Controls
May 24, 2023 • 25 MIN
Matt discusses his (ex?) fear of flying and we drill deeper into the idea of risk normalization. From there, it's on to safety "controls" and the human condition. Do they always play nice?
Episode 8 - Accountability (part 2)
July 5, 2023 • 25 MIN
We answer the question "when should we use HR disciplinary action/punishment?" with some stories and examples. From there, we look at how counterfactuals impact our post-event learning.
Episode 9 - Accountability (part 3)
July 19, 2023 • 24 MIN
We wrap up the 3 part Accountability series by covering counterfactuals and how they impact our view of people or system problems, the role of a culpability matrix, and how to create a high accountability environment.
Episode 11 - Operational Learning (part 1)
August 16, 2023 • 28 MIN
It's time for another mini-series, and this time we're looking at all things operational learning. We start the series by discussing one area that makes operational learning so crucial - complexity science.
Episode 12 - Operational Learning (part 2)
August 30, 2023 • 31 MIN
We start by discussing the complexity of... you guessed it - baseball. From there, we start breaking down operational learning through the idea of "being teachable".
Episode 14 - Operational Learning (part 4)
September 27, 2023 • 25 MIN
We talk through how we create the conditions for candor while we're working with different organizations. From there, Andy practices some operational learning on what it's like for Matt to book their travel.
Episode 18 - Performance Modes and Mitigation Defenses
November 22, 2023 • 27 MIN
Andy starts with a story around how we respond to an incident without considering what performance mode(s) the people executing the task are in. From there, we discuss why we should shift our energy and resources into adding mitigation defenses rather than something like "retraining" post-incident.
Episode 19 - How can an organization adopt HOP?
December 6, 2023 • 25 MIN
After wrapping up homework with our invented mitigation defense, we move on to share how we see HOP adopted by organizations. We'll spend time on what's worked well for some places and what challenges we hear most often.
Episode 20 - "We don't have the time to make this change" / A business case for HOP
December 20, 2023 • 22 MIN
We tackle a listen asked question on how to handle the pushback from leadership that the organization does not have "the time or the resources to make this change" by making a business case for HOP.
Episode 25 - "We pay people to follow the rules" / A case for HOP
February 28, 2024 • 25 MIN
We discuss the common objection around "rules" and the role they play in keeping people safe. As you might expect, it leads us back to the conversation around people problems vs. system problems.
Episode 26 - "I like HOP, but our recent incident was too severe and we need to return to basics" / A case for HOP
March 13, 2024 • 26 MIN
We start with a story around a rule of unknown origins. From there, we explore why after major incidents even "HOP" leaders want to go back to their prior ways.
Episode 27 - "HOP is adding too much extra work" / A case for HOP
March 27, 2024 • 26 MIN
We discuss the common push back that the internal requirements following any Operational Learning can feel like a burden, but there are ways we can push on those constraints. Also - Matt was able to use a very confusing (but maybe helpful) puppy analogy.
Episode 29 - What to do when your big ticket solution from Operational Learning gets shot down
April 24, 2024 • 23 MIN
We discuss a recent question we were asked around how to move forward after the biggest (and likely most expensive) solution from your operational learning session is axed by Leadership.
Episode 30 - What to do with the "inexperienced workforce"
May 8, 2024 • 28 MIN
The new generations of workers is not going anywhere, so we revisit the topic of episode 23 (based on listener questions) and add more to the discussion.