The wonderfully warm and supportive Barbara Barna Abel joins in to give more insight into the wild world of casting. She's a legend in the category having been the casting director on Queer Eye, What Not to Wear, and Man v. Food. We discuss a wide variety of topics from coming into your own personal brand to the importance of meditation and being gentler with yourself. I'd highly recommend listening in as Barbara shares incredibly generously and with sometimes reckless abandon.