Loving my Career with Rucker Taylor
February 22, 2021
Do you love your career?
Do you love it so much that you may sacrifice some personal time for it?
But isn't this bad?
Aren't we suppose to have some scale of work/ life balance?
Join us as we talk to Davidson Head Baseball Coach, Rucker Taylor as he talks about why he is not sorry for loving his career.
Do you love your career?
Do you love it so much that you may sacrifice some personal time for it?
But isn't this bad?
Aren't we suppose to have some scale of work/ life balance?
Join us as we talk to Davidson Head Baseball Coach, Rucker Taylor as he talks about why he is not sorry for loving his career.
About the guest: Rucker Taylor is a caring coach that demonstrates it with his actions and intentionality with his players. While he has seen much success in his career, it didn't come without hard work, dedication, and sacrifice. He has played for Vanderbilt University, coached at Samford University, and now is the baseball head coach for Davidson College.
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[00:00:05] spk_1: you by Safety FM. Welcome to unapologetically bold. I'm not sorry for If you are a person that is tired of apologizing for being you, you know the human part of you that sometimes feels like it has to be different at home versus work versus play. The human side that just wants to be hot, humble, open and transparent about your wants, desires and uniqueness. If you answered yes, this is for you. Join me, Emily Elrod as I dive into conversations with Amazing Guest. About what? That you're not sorry for And creative and loving ways. Let's get started. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to another unapologetically bold. I'm not sorry for today. I'm pumped because I actually have a good friend with the wrecker on. Thanks for joining me record.
[00:01:01] spk_0: Absolutely. Should
[00:01:03] spk_1: it is gonna be a fun conversation. And for all it is tuning in right now, just wanna do that quick. Little ask if you will continue to light, subscribe and share as our goal is to bring a little positivity. Not just all rainbows and butterflies, but some reality to your news feed. So let's just go ahead and hop on in. Now, wrecker. I know you. So I'm going to do a little introduction. Him? He's like, Oh, no. But Rutgers, Somebody met at Sanford. We have known each other for Wow, it's gonna make us feel old. Like, what's 10? Is it almost 10 years, 10 ish years. We've been good buds. We have. You've went from Sanford. That's where we met through my best friends, Sarah. She introduced us because you all went to school together as well. And then now you are at Davidson College and you are the head baseball coach, and you're also just an awesome dude. Um, and we nerd out a lot about just how the human body works and just how to be better every day. And so I'm excited for you to come on the show and especially to talk about what we're going to speak on today. So anything else to add to that?
[00:02:18] spk_0: No, I think that's great. I think the I think what you're doing here is wonderful. I think this this past year has been been different for a lot of people in so many ways. I think the thing that's allowed me to do is ranch off in some topics like this, and whether you're, ah, baseball coach, a husband, a father, a mother, wife person, it works, you know, on a college campus or nothing to do with college or high school athletes or college athletes there. This time has been wonderful for so many different people. Thio look into different things. So for me, obviously like this to speak and talk about some of the things that I've learned I think is awesome, I think, you know, just from From Washington Show with With With Andy Basket, Matt Rise. I've learned from this, So this is a co opportunity to meet toe, learn from those guys, learn from you. And now to go to be on here is tremendous, but very quickly my background. What's a high school based at Academy, where with Sarah Sears and very briefly, maybe a great person. You have on some point their head volleyball coach and chilling. They just want a national record. I think it's 17 or 18th straight State title. Eso incredible, incredible coach. So, you know, literally national record from a smaller school in Sarah's part of that went from went from Bayside to Vanderbilt, played their learned from a You know, coaches probably impacted me that anybody as much of the deception, maybe my father and Tim Corbyn. Yeah, what do you do Obama? Baseball into is really an incredible thing on a lot of different levels, and that was probably a big, big wants to be getting into coaching. I think I got into it because I love the game of baseball, and the more I've done it, it's people. It's hopefully helping that the college age person development in such a special time in their life. That kind of kind of brings us here where, you know, this year I've tried to learn as much as I can. It's been a year. There's been a lot thrown at us, a lot of different levels and just really thankful that people such as yourself, a lot of guests you had on or trying to help people through this time help people better. Others, which I think so, a wonderful, much needed think
[00:04:14] spk_1: well, thank you so much, and I think it's, too that I hope the audience can get your heart out of this because I think what we're gonna be talking about what you're not sorry for sometimes can be come off as like you may not care about some people at times where I know your heart and I know your passion and love for people. So I think that let's just go ahead and dive into it is called unapologetically bold. What are you not sorry for?
[00:04:39] spk_0: I am not sorry for loving my career.
[00:04:42] spk_1: I love it. And that's the thing, too, is that you're in baseball. So I call that a lifestyle, and it is something that you are going to miss. Weddings. You're going to miss Burst. You're going to miss ah, lot of things that some people in their minds see you being selfish. But I see it as a sacrifice because I could only imagine you not doing baseball, that you might be like a grumpy old
[00:05:09] spk_0: man. You know what I'm doing? E. You hit on the head. I think it's It's a lifestyle, and I think there's There's some people think that celebrate that. I think there's some people that you know, maybe I should be a lifestyle. It's not. It's not who yours is, just what you do and I think a different points in my life. I've gone back and forth on that, but the more I've done it because I kind of alluded to there a few minutes ago. I think if you just look at the wins and losses, if you just look at you know we've got to recruit this player because he's a good player. If you just look at here, we've gotta get cool uniforms or we gotta go play in this tournament. I think that maybe devalues what it is a t least in my opinion and I was talking with the travel coach a little bit earlier and ah, lot of programs now. They recruit guys, they cut guys, those guys don't develop and where I'm at, where I've been, there really been a program that's done that and not saying we're right and others were wrong. I think the collegiate athletics or certainly evolving very, very lucrative field in a lot of different areas, especially in men's basketball and football. But for me forth where I've been, where I've been at, I think it's a lot about the human elements developing that 17 18 1920 21 year old Yes. We all know that's a very, very unique type of our lives. I think if you have, you know, good mentorship, good guidance, not staying on that My instructor imagination. But I certainly had that in my life, and I think you would kind of gonna repay that. And for me, it's not. I'm not trying to create my experience at Vanderbilt for anyone, but I'm trying to create a unique experience for those guys while they're here and whether they like me every practice or even every month or every season. Not really. As big of a deal to me is when they look back, you know, 5, 10, 20 years. They hope to find a lot of impact for from the program and being around myself and other coaches. So, yeah, I don't think it's a lifestyle. And you're right. You're gonna miss, uh, missed a couple of my best friends from from colleges, weddings. Um, miss, you know, maybe some family members. You're on as closely as you wanna see often and certainly some friends that that's part of it. And I don't think at this point, like I really regret any of that, and I think that's, ah, special thing to be able to look back and be really content with where you're at, like at this point.
[00:07:22] spk_1: And I think that's important, too, because some people miss things is crutches sometimes over their their work as a crunch. But there's also a confidence in whenever you know you're walking out your purpose in life because I know you. Like I said, I've known you for years. I feel like God put you on this Earth for you to do the work that you're doing because I know your passion, your care. And I know the side conversations that we had have had about just the people and how you want to help them be better in talk about for minutes. Why that it why you perceive that's different whenever you walk out in a career. And And, moreover, even a calling comparative just a job.
[00:08:05] spk_0: Yeah, so I think you go several ways with that. I think one that maybe jumps out it's a little bit. Maybe that's not as agree with as much is. Sometimes I think it is individuals, you know, There. We definitely conform to what society expects, especially given the South, which I'm from Bella's for South Alabama is you could be, um yeah, I think there's things are very traditional. I think that, you know, you're supposed to maybe sometimes worked at 9 to 5 or maybe 15, 20 years ago. You're supposed to follow and your your your parents footsteps and have their business, which I think somebody is that you've talked about on here before. Eso for me. I think it's sometimes if I'm doing something that maybe my peers and my friends were, Um, there's that feeling, maybe being the, you know, the black sheep being different. I think by you know, by playing in college I wasn't enough play professionally, but without my teammates tour and and we've got a very close group about 10 12, 15 guys and a lot of us are in baseball and a lot of guys in professional baseball more traditional playing. But a lot of guys air professional coaches or they're in the front office and administrative roles. For me. There's a couple of guys are coaching college coaching and coaching professionally and I think we're really proud of each other and, you know, you kind of look back on it. I think there's certainly something there where we push each other a little bit. I think, in a good, healthy way. I think we want each other to do well on to succeed. I think there's some pride with each other. So, you know, I thought about it for me. I think I didn't really fortunate in that. My pure group is kind of trended that way. If I don't go to Vanderbilt, then maybe I'm not doing what I'm doing. I think I still be trying to help people. My mom was a teacher. Dad was a C P. A. And in their own ways, they're both very involved with helping with helping others. So maybe not quite this role, But I think so. I think at the end of they would wanna be interacting with people. And yeah, I said, There's a guy that kind of concerns myself, an introvert. But I still do like the idea of being a positive influence, and it's just a small a small influence of that. So maybe a long answer to your question. I think I was just fortunate where I was in a group that that was okay had it not been this group, there might, I might have gone with that peer pressure off. Maybe you don't go to that college. Maybe you don't play that sport. And things probably little different right now is reality.
[00:10:26] spk_1: And I think that's important to note the severe of influence and the people that you surround yourself with and that going for those people that push you that strive you to be better daily. And I know that you have a very personal connection, especially your father. You have adoration for your father and how he has helped you, Ah, lot in the work that you you do and your love for baseball and then continuing that on. So it's a two part question is one and your severe of influence and the people that have built you up in men towards you. When did you realize that it's okay to do what you you have always loved to do? And then the other aspect of it is how do you think that is affected you and your success because you're actually very successful and the work that you do and you've been successful? Do you think that has had an impact on you falling what you love early and having those people to promote it.
[00:11:26] spk_0: Yeah, those those are good questions. So I think Vanderbilt, But I'm definitely a math major. So if you lose track of keeping up with both questions, help remind me here. But I think the first point, Yeah, I think the you know, not just my dad, but you're my best friend. Growing up, his dad was also our youth baseball coach. So you've got to really positive models, uh, to people that you like it. You really spend a lot of time with outside the baseball field. You know, we would watch other sporting events. We've got Auburn football games, so you have to really good role models right there. There's a guy that I referred to as an uncle that also, you know, not a biological uncle, the guy that was close to family, that was heavily involved in the youth baseball programs that were part off. So I think just having the mentors, the positive influence Ah, lot of my my friends that were older, played sports, and you know, whether right or wrong, I gravitated toward those people because they were good athletes s. I think it just a lot of early influences on me as I got older, my high school coach was very positive influence. You know, it's not just baseball, but a couple other sports. Then when I got to college, you know, it's a It's a heck of a coaching group looking back in my college coaches, still a banner building when multiple national championships, now coach for Team USA. And he's, you know, widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best college baseball coach right now, what this assistance is now the head coach at the University of Michigan who just was the national runner off, very well respected coach, the pitching coach he was really close with has been a major league pitching coach. Now, with two different organizations currently with the Reds, one of the assistant coach is now the head coach. East Carolina has got incredible reputation. Another guy's a professional coach and a couple other guys or friends that are division three in division two coaches. So just being around a lot of really good people that that were also really good through jobs that were highly motivated to to turn that program around and they invested in us is people, so you know from that side of it, Obviously, it would have been hard to not do something like this. But there's definitely a lot of really positive mentorships and influence and guidance, not always the lobby W Hey, you're the best lot of powerful, especially later on process. But I think there's a lot of value in your honest assessment, clear assessment, and I struggle with that and not to delve too far off topic here. But my freshman year, I played a lot of freshman, thought I was great. A lot of myself value was tied into being, uh, you know, starting in the SEC as a freshman and then the midway through the year cane. They realize that the SEC was a lot better than I Waas and I'm struggling. I pounded. I didn't know how to respond, and it was tough. There's a really tough period there for about six months and had great guidance from my bad. My mom and my high school coach, the Times mothers, but the college coaches was tough and I had to either get better or get gone, and I got a little bit better. Better enough to stick around. But that probably Maybe you want to succeed even Mawr to to some level being as a player as a coach. So a long answer. Your first question. I think it's just really good mentor ship that that kind of pushing in that direction and probably I probably realized was okay. Um, really early on in the process, my father and brother picks always said, You know, do something you love and, you know, try to be your own boss and I I've got oversights. We've got athletic situation here and presidents and board trustees, and they're all very supportive of the the student athlete experience here, Davidson. But you know, being the head coach, there's a lot of what you could have on your program. We try to give our players a lot of of, say, try to the other Coach is a lot of say, and I think that's something that I value the input of all those guys you know, the end of day. It's still gonna be my decision and things, but I think I found something that I really enjoy and even if it's not traditionally that there's not many 9 to 5. The weekends are based off far from it this summer. You know, when you get the summer, you got to go to the beach or right now. Okay, so you got camps like now, summers, actually, this year that it was spring in the fall. So, um, there's definitely some times you made you question it early on with Is this the right thing? If I lose this relationship, is this the right thing or, you know, I've got a college degree and I saw it. I was a volunteer assistant Sanford, and you're not getting paid a whole lot in those rules. That's part of it. And that probably that probably was the biggest thing for me was how much I enjoyed it. Even though some of the the basic needs of food shelter like good stuff, we're not not super straightforward that time.
[00:16:15] spk_1: Eso true, though, and I think that's important to I'll say, from my perspective, a lot of the work that I've done is I don't even know if you know this, that I took a secretary job with a master's degree, just so I could work my way up to be where I wanted to in the wellness industry and then started my own business. But the thing is, is if you have, if you can set yourself up to sometimes, yeah, money is needed and you have you may have to do multiple jobs, but if you can start doing that thing that you love every day, you my father's always told me that if you love what you do every day, you'll never work a day in your life. And I think big part of that, too, is whenever you love your career, it's not that it's not stressful, and it's not that you're gonna have sucky times, and it's not. That is gonna be the easy cakewalk, but you can adapt and overcome a little bit better. So I love toe talk about that a bit because you're in baseball. It is a game of wins and losses, and sometimes there's more losses than there are wins. But for you, you've had a lot of winning records. Mhm. So how do you think your love of your for what you do translates on the field for your players?
[00:17:33] spk_0: You hope they see it, e think you know, in college and high school is around a lot of guys that you could see it. I've been ableto work for your assistant coach to different head coaches with very different personalities. Uh, but both really good people that treated me well, I think I've been really fortunate in my baseball career early in life to be around people that are good people. I have a lot of guys that were my age and maybe started off in college coaching that because of the lack of income, may be starting out or they work for a really tough boss that maybe didn't care about those people as much. Um, that aren't doing it now. So I've been really fortunate I had maybe some opportunities for jobs that paid a little bit more early on that after a lot of thought and prayer and, uh, probably too much thought that yeah, I chose not to do. And some people thought, man, you're doing you should go there. And, you know, looking back, it was the right decision, So I was really fortunate. Good counsel, uh, clear guidance in those, um, with the players seeing it especially, Ah, college educated, A smart guy. Um, they're gonna know if you're being genuine or not. And they're gonna if you're prepared for the day, they're going to know most of them are gonna if you truly care, Not some guys will. He yelled at me or I'm not starting. He doesn't care. And I don't I don't think that's the case with most of guys. Certainly does exist to some level. We try to be really transparent with, um, try to give them the idea of where they stand, where we're going, how they fit into it. And is it perfect communication? No, absolutely not. That's something that I really try to use this last nine months to get better. And, uh but I think if the guys, they're going to see it and there's some coaches that maybe you're up and down. I think for me consistency the same demeanor is incredibly important, you know, for a coach, but also for the players. You know, I think that the guys that you know, what you're getting day in and day out, the as coaches, you kind of gravitate towards them. You could have more trust with them. on the field and you know there's a comfort level there. So for us, we realize that there's 18 1920. There's gonna be this, not, you know, they're aliens for us and really the last point 2.5 years now I probably tried it. I probably mawr thinking about off the field things with them that the team, the team development, the individual development from the person that is as the player. And that's been something that as much as I love the X's and O's the endgame strategy, I think that's been a really been a bigger focus. And that again, to me, that plays into the bigger picture off the human being, the type of person. And we talked this year. Given the weirdness of this year, there should be a handful of games replacing teams this year that are flat out better players than us. Um, there might be a couple that we might have a little bit more talented players, but you know the game of baseball. There's a a lot of similarities in our talent level this year and Heather option listen to guys for the Kansas City Chiefs Town. He talked about? They thought their guys can see chiefs, you know, super changes last year, the scoreboard. Dolan. You know, he was a 2020. This. Okay, well, an Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City. That scoreboard works. Uh, you know, Bryant, Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa. Val available. That scoreboard works. And, you know, we talked with our guys. We're gonna We're gonna play a South Carolina. We're gonna play a Duke or Wake Forest. Uh, there have a nice big scoreboard and it's gonna turn going. We have, Ah, five year old scoreboard here. That's that's nice. And it works and there's a winner and loser each game. And for us, I think it's been really getting the guys to focus on. It's okay to have ups and downs, but the end of day, when you're between those lines, it's about competing for that common goal. And yet we're absolutely not gonna win every game this year. As a coach, I can handle that. I really can. I think for us that the focus is there. If the effort is there, we can handle the rest of you know what I'm gonna make mistakes with with strategy and game. That's part of it. I can live with you guys making physical mistakes. That is gonna happen. Our job is to get those guys the best place. Mentally, they could be eso they're just point. And as you well know, especially with a 20 year old athlete, there's so many things that go into that and much less than this year. So that's been really kind of a cool. I don't want to call it a struggle or a battle. That's been really kind of cool learning thing for us. We talked about it a lot. We try to get input from different guys on things, and, uh, if we could get in the will be the best team we could be Mentally, you know, the physical part things to take care of itself, that you're in critical points, so get kind of a longer answer to your question. But I think the guys who you care about them, if they can see your about what you're doing, that's where that's players, your co workers, your management. I think it shines through. I think that's the beauty. Uh, so we see about technology I don't love, but if you're if you're a hard if you're a hard worker, um, people confined you much like if you're really talented athlete and you're in Montana both the beauty of social media with video, you know, college recruiters confined you. I think if you're really talented writer, there's ways to get published that the world can see it online that maybe even 20 years ago didn't exist. You could get your story out there for good and bad. Uh, you know, so for us, I think each ties back to a za coaches. I think we're passionate about what we do, and we're fairly meticulous in the recruiting process. We have a lot of guys that want to be a Davidson for the academics for the school sign. That's incredibly important. And I learned that by watching some programs that other places that maybe didn't have the right fit or people that weren't here for the right reason and there's a lot of transfers, a lot of guys leaving girls paying on sport and for us we want people that want to be here. We also want them to be really successful baseball. We're not use academics as a crutch or why we can't win a baseball game and it's a challenge and it's not for everyone. And that's fine. You know, if a guy who recruited by Psycho she all you are, you know, national profile, enough for baseball, For you, that's fine. A guy says, Coach, I can't handle the academic club. I'd much rather know that is a junior in high school that is a software in college. So I think it's a lot that goes into it and you start getting the right people on the bus, we'll figure out we're going. And some of those good good analogies out e think we certainly buy into that to some level.
[00:24:11] spk_1: And I think that's really important to just to note that if people can't see your love, your passion for this, I think that they have to be deaf or blind because I think it's just I like I said, I know your heart and that was my goal for this too. Especially having you on is having people like you that care for the players and we will be in joke like this, too, because we were talking back and forth about what the title of this would be and one of them we had we had touched on was a possibility of talking about how you're not sorry for caring for your people, are for your students or athletes. Is two people hurt? Because But I think that shows. And I think that's so important, but understanding, especially where you're at. It's a high performance, high perfection environment at times where, you know, we've talked about this. We want to go from the model of a progression over print perfection. But like all the words for these years that you have these people and you just cared and you poured out, and I think that's important for what you're not. Sorry is if you never loved your career, you couldn't deal with it because there's a lot of because we've also talked about that. I'll flying on whenever you come in the coaching thing, there are things that happen in life. You're like, Whoa, I didn't know. I thought I was just doing skills. And then there's other things that pop up. So for people that are apologizing for loving their career, what would you tell them
[00:25:37] spk_0: who, um, you know, the easy copout answers. Every situation is different, but I think for me and when things have come up, be a career, things within the career, things with work, life, balance. I think that, you know, one. I've always had a good support system. My wife is Scottish of baseball is not something that she had a whole heck of lot about now. And she she doesn't make you understand the nuances of a double switch. But you know, the home run is and, you know, strikeout, not good stuff. So I think she's been great to have that support. I think the administration or former coach head coach Dick Coke is our sport oversight. And he's been a great sounding board. You know, the our assistant coaches Ryan longer Parker, Baines, Aaron Lissack and Don't Elbert. They all are really invested in kind of same concept, not just in the baseball side, but they care about kids. And e think you've got a lot of people you know, rowing the boat in the same direction. You're gonna have some good things there. So, for me, you know, in a broad sense, if you know whatever your basis for decision making is, um follow that. And for me and I'm a believer first and foremost at the end of the day, you know, I'm gonna follow what I think you know. The Lord wants me dio and if the world if you know, guys on the team and other coaches have disagree with that, but I feel like that's right with him, I'll figure it out at some point. I'm not too worried about it. So for me, whatever your your your north star is your raw your foundation at the end of day for me, you gotta go with that. Secondly, I think that, you know, you have to make sure you're doing something you love and whether that's your recreational activity. Whether that Z you know your job. I think you've gotta be truly invested into it. And you think you have to be okay with Hey, this is a priority. It's a priority. I think this is a thing I mentioned to you the cool book I read a year or two ago. I actually went back and reread it about six months ago. But atomic habits, they I'm a botches. I'm not that smart. But there's a is example whether true or not, it stuck with me and guy walks up on a couple, two guys outside a restaurant and, you know, a guy walks up and because, hey, you guys have a light and the first guy goes, uh, man, I'm trying to quit. But, you know, here's here's my cigarette lighter and the second guy goes, I'm glad he does, because I'm not. I don't smoke cigarettes now. Both men were actually trying to quit, but the first one say, I I'm trying to quit. The second guy says, I'm not a cigarette smoker. So for me, that really shows you How do we self identify? Uh, and for a lot of my thought, what if I'm a baseball coach? I've got no issue is saying that a lot of my decisions were made through that length. So if you're a stay at home mom and some people might, Trump knows that. But that's what you want to do, and your family is good with it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you stay at home, dad, you know what society like? Well, you know, it's different. Um, there's nothing wrong with that. Has nothing wrong that if you work a part time job, but you love it and you've got other priorities and your support system. People that rely on you are good with it, man Rocket, you know, go with it. So, you know, I don't know. That's a really good advice, but for me, it's what you're what you're getting like, What's your foundation? What's your North Star? And they're the people around you to write people. If not, you know, maybe like the old spring cleaning. Maybe you guys kind of people out or reposition them, you know, within your closet, and there's nothing wrong. You know, the old, the old cliches. Life's too short and then you hit. You hit on that, your spirit of influence earlier, the people you surround yourself with if you've got you know, there's some show that that my wife watches it's real housewives or home records of something, and I'm sure there are great people. Maybe, but if I you know, if I was once cast members on that show, I couldn't handle the drama. Not maybe not how I operate, but if you want to run that circle, that's how you function better. We'll do it, but for me, if I had some of those people you know were on the chopping block and and that's and that's just me. I might be a little simpleton on that, but that's how I would operate.
[00:30:01] spk_1: No. And I think it's so true because like I said, like, we've talked throughout this, your sphere of influence matters and I think that's so important. I think this actually pulls up a good comment that James put out. It says if you or Mike, if you live your life with love, you will love the life you live and that's the thing. And not only just the people, but also the things that you were doing. So I am so grateful for you to join me today record. So if anybody does, they hear this. You're like, Hey, I may want to reach out to him And by the way, you have a Wikipedia page. I didn't even know that. Just f y eso don't get him on Wikipedia because I'm bet you I know how he is with technology. He s O. But if people do want to reach out or may just want to have a discussion, maybe deeper, how could they How could they find you?
[00:30:53] spk_0: Yeah. So it's just not a ton of tech. I do have Twitter. I think it's just at Rucker. Taylor, You know, I'm the fourth named after my great grandfather, but, um, my grandfather grandfather not living. And my dad is his last text savvy. And I am So Rucker Taylor on Twitter and in my email is are you so the first two first two letters of Rucker are you taylor at Davidson dot e d u. Yeah. We love to, you know, sports non school related. Well, to talk. And yeah, they said earlier, I've learned so much from from, you know, shows like this, uh, Indian man in particular. You have, ah, sports slant on it have been wonderful. And as you know, I think I think Andy's, uh, one. I've said his information called people today, and I think what he's doing is tremendous. And, you know, everybody's got any kind of story for me that might help on the baseball side. Or personally, if I could listen or, you know, give any kind of thoughts would be more than happy to. And all of our athletes went home at Thanksgiving we've got eight weeks about them. And the honey to do list is only so long. So I've got some time, eh? So we would love to chat with whoever, Uh, be also, yes. So Twitter's at record. Taylor and emails. Are you Taylor, David? Somebody you I think my dad has linked in. Thank you. Chastise me for not having it. So
[00:32:12] spk_1: yeah, I have just a few times. Okay. Really going to get you on. There
[00:32:16] spk_0: s Dad's also talked to a different conversation, Maybe.
[00:32:22] spk_1: Well, I appreciate you so much. And I thank you for all that tune in having Amazing and Blessed Day. Thank you so much for tuning in to this episode of unapologetically bold. I'm not sorry for If this touch shoot anyway, please, like and subscribe and share with your friends as we continue the message of being unapologetically bold, Bobby and hot humans who are humble, open and transparent. See you next time
Do you love it so much that you may sacrifice some personal time for it?
But isn't this bad?
Aren't we suppose to have some scale of work/ life balance?
Join us as we talk to Davidson Head Baseball Coach, Rucker Taylor as he talks about why he is not sorry for loving his career.
About the guest: Rucker Taylor is a caring coach that demonstrates it with his actions and intentionality with his players. While he has seen much success in his career, it didn't come without hard work, dedication, and sacrifice. He has played for Vanderbilt University, coached at Samford University, and now is the baseball head coach for Davidson College.
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[00:00:05] spk_1: you by Safety FM. Welcome to unapologetically bold. I'm not sorry for If you are a person that is tired of apologizing for being you, you know the human part of you that sometimes feels like it has to be different at home versus work versus play. The human side that just wants to be hot, humble, open and transparent about your wants, desires and uniqueness. If you answered yes, this is for you. Join me, Emily Elrod as I dive into conversations with Amazing Guest. About what? That you're not sorry for And creative and loving ways. Let's get started. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to another unapologetically bold. I'm not sorry for today. I'm pumped because I actually have a good friend with the wrecker on. Thanks for joining me record.
[00:01:01] spk_0: Absolutely. Should
[00:01:03] spk_1: it is gonna be a fun conversation. And for all it is tuning in right now, just wanna do that quick. Little ask if you will continue to light, subscribe and share as our goal is to bring a little positivity. Not just all rainbows and butterflies, but some reality to your news feed. So let's just go ahead and hop on in. Now, wrecker. I know you. So I'm going to do a little introduction. Him? He's like, Oh, no. But Rutgers, Somebody met at Sanford. We have known each other for Wow, it's gonna make us feel old. Like, what's 10? Is it almost 10 years, 10 ish years. We've been good buds. We have. You've went from Sanford. That's where we met through my best friends, Sarah. She introduced us because you all went to school together as well. And then now you are at Davidson College and you are the head baseball coach, and you're also just an awesome dude. Um, and we nerd out a lot about just how the human body works and just how to be better every day. And so I'm excited for you to come on the show and especially to talk about what we're going to speak on today. So anything else to add to that?
[00:02:18] spk_0: No, I think that's great. I think the I think what you're doing here is wonderful. I think this this past year has been been different for a lot of people in so many ways. I think the thing that's allowed me to do is ranch off in some topics like this, and whether you're, ah, baseball coach, a husband, a father, a mother, wife person, it works, you know, on a college campus or nothing to do with college or high school athletes or college athletes there. This time has been wonderful for so many different people. Thio look into different things. So for me, obviously like this to speak and talk about some of the things that I've learned I think is awesome, I think, you know, just from From Washington Show with With With Andy Basket, Matt Rise. I've learned from this, So this is a co opportunity to meet toe, learn from those guys, learn from you. And now to go to be on here is tremendous, but very quickly my background. What's a high school based at Academy, where with Sarah Sears and very briefly, maybe a great person. You have on some point their head volleyball coach and chilling. They just want a national record. I think it's 17 or 18th straight State title. Eso incredible, incredible coach. So, you know, literally national record from a smaller school in Sarah's part of that went from went from Bayside to Vanderbilt, played their learned from a You know, coaches probably impacted me that anybody as much of the deception, maybe my father and Tim Corbyn. Yeah, what do you do Obama? Baseball into is really an incredible thing on a lot of different levels, and that was probably a big, big wants to be getting into coaching. I think I got into it because I love the game of baseball, and the more I've done it, it's people. It's hopefully helping that the college age person development in such a special time in their life. That kind of kind of brings us here where, you know, this year I've tried to learn as much as I can. It's been a year. There's been a lot thrown at us, a lot of different levels and just really thankful that people such as yourself, a lot of guests you had on or trying to help people through this time help people better. Others, which I think so, a wonderful, much needed think
[00:04:14] spk_1: well, thank you so much, and I think it's, too that I hope the audience can get your heart out of this because I think what we're gonna be talking about what you're not sorry for sometimes can be come off as like you may not care about some people at times where I know your heart and I know your passion and love for people. So I think that let's just go ahead and dive into it is called unapologetically bold. What are you not sorry for?
[00:04:39] spk_0: I am not sorry for loving my career.
[00:04:42] spk_1: I love it. And that's the thing, too, is that you're in baseball. So I call that a lifestyle, and it is something that you are going to miss. Weddings. You're going to miss Burst. You're going to miss ah, lot of things that some people in their minds see you being selfish. But I see it as a sacrifice because I could only imagine you not doing baseball, that you might be like a grumpy old
[00:05:09] spk_0: man. You know what I'm doing? E. You hit on the head. I think it's It's a lifestyle, and I think there's There's some people think that celebrate that. I think there's some people that you know, maybe I should be a lifestyle. It's not. It's not who yours is, just what you do and I think a different points in my life. I've gone back and forth on that, but the more I've done it because I kind of alluded to there a few minutes ago. I think if you just look at the wins and losses, if you just look at you know we've got to recruit this player because he's a good player. If you just look at here, we've gotta get cool uniforms or we gotta go play in this tournament. I think that maybe devalues what it is a t least in my opinion and I was talking with the travel coach a little bit earlier and ah, lot of programs now. They recruit guys, they cut guys, those guys don't develop and where I'm at, where I've been, there really been a program that's done that and not saying we're right and others were wrong. I think the collegiate athletics or certainly evolving very, very lucrative field in a lot of different areas, especially in men's basketball and football. But for me forth where I've been, where I've been at, I think it's a lot about the human elements developing that 17 18 1920 21 year old Yes. We all know that's a very, very unique type of our lives. I think if you have, you know, good mentorship, good guidance, not staying on that My instructor imagination. But I certainly had that in my life, and I think you would kind of gonna repay that. And for me, it's not. I'm not trying to create my experience at Vanderbilt for anyone, but I'm trying to create a unique experience for those guys while they're here and whether they like me every practice or even every month or every season. Not really. As big of a deal to me is when they look back, you know, 5, 10, 20 years. They hope to find a lot of impact for from the program and being around myself and other coaches. So, yeah, I don't think it's a lifestyle. And you're right. You're gonna miss, uh, missed a couple of my best friends from from colleges, weddings. Um, miss, you know, maybe some family members. You're on as closely as you wanna see often and certainly some friends that that's part of it. And I don't think at this point, like I really regret any of that, and I think that's, ah, special thing to be able to look back and be really content with where you're at, like at this point.
[00:07:22] spk_1: And I think that's important, too, because some people miss things is crutches sometimes over their their work as a crunch. But there's also a confidence in whenever you know you're walking out your purpose in life because I know you. Like I said, I've known you for years. I feel like God put you on this Earth for you to do the work that you're doing because I know your passion, your care. And I know the side conversations that we had have had about just the people and how you want to help them be better in talk about for minutes. Why that it why you perceive that's different whenever you walk out in a career. And And, moreover, even a calling comparative just a job.
[00:08:05] spk_0: Yeah, so I think you go several ways with that. I think one that maybe jumps out it's a little bit. Maybe that's not as agree with as much is. Sometimes I think it is individuals, you know, There. We definitely conform to what society expects, especially given the South, which I'm from Bella's for South Alabama is you could be, um yeah, I think there's things are very traditional. I think that, you know, you're supposed to maybe sometimes worked at 9 to 5 or maybe 15, 20 years ago. You're supposed to follow and your your your parents footsteps and have their business, which I think somebody is that you've talked about on here before. Eso for me. I think it's sometimes if I'm doing something that maybe my peers and my friends were, Um, there's that feeling, maybe being the, you know, the black sheep being different. I think by you know, by playing in college I wasn't enough play professionally, but without my teammates tour and and we've got a very close group about 10 12, 15 guys and a lot of us are in baseball and a lot of guys in professional baseball more traditional playing. But a lot of guys air professional coaches or they're in the front office and administrative roles. For me. There's a couple of guys are coaching college coaching and coaching professionally and I think we're really proud of each other and, you know, you kind of look back on it. I think there's certainly something there where we push each other a little bit. I think, in a good, healthy way. I think we want each other to do well on to succeed. I think there's some pride with each other. So, you know, I thought about it for me. I think I didn't really fortunate in that. My pure group is kind of trended that way. If I don't go to Vanderbilt, then maybe I'm not doing what I'm doing. I think I still be trying to help people. My mom was a teacher. Dad was a C P. A. And in their own ways, they're both very involved with helping with helping others. So maybe not quite this role, But I think so. I think at the end of they would wanna be interacting with people. And yeah, I said, There's a guy that kind of concerns myself, an introvert. But I still do like the idea of being a positive influence, and it's just a small a small influence of that. So maybe a long answer to your question. I think I was just fortunate where I was in a group that that was okay had it not been this group, there might, I might have gone with that peer pressure off. Maybe you don't go to that college. Maybe you don't play that sport. And things probably little different right now is reality.
[00:10:26] spk_1: And I think that's important to note the severe of influence and the people that you surround yourself with and that going for those people that push you that strive you to be better daily. And I know that you have a very personal connection, especially your father. You have adoration for your father and how he has helped you, Ah, lot in the work that you you do and your love for baseball and then continuing that on. So it's a two part question is one and your severe of influence and the people that have built you up in men towards you. When did you realize that it's okay to do what you you have always loved to do? And then the other aspect of it is how do you think that is affected you and your success because you're actually very successful and the work that you do and you've been successful? Do you think that has had an impact on you falling what you love early and having those people to promote it.
[00:11:26] spk_0: Yeah, those those are good questions. So I think Vanderbilt, But I'm definitely a math major. So if you lose track of keeping up with both questions, help remind me here. But I think the first point, Yeah, I think the you know, not just my dad, but you're my best friend. Growing up, his dad was also our youth baseball coach. So you've got to really positive models, uh, to people that you like it. You really spend a lot of time with outside the baseball field. You know, we would watch other sporting events. We've got Auburn football games, so you have to really good role models right there. There's a guy that I referred to as an uncle that also, you know, not a biological uncle, the guy that was close to family, that was heavily involved in the youth baseball programs that were part off. So I think just having the mentors, the positive influence Ah, lot of my my friends that were older, played sports, and you know, whether right or wrong, I gravitated toward those people because they were good athletes s. I think it just a lot of early influences on me as I got older, my high school coach was very positive influence. You know, it's not just baseball, but a couple other sports. Then when I got to college, you know, it's a It's a heck of a coaching group looking back in my college coaches, still a banner building when multiple national championships, now coach for Team USA. And he's, you know, widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best college baseball coach right now, what this assistance is now the head coach at the University of Michigan who just was the national runner off, very well respected coach, the pitching coach he was really close with has been a major league pitching coach. Now, with two different organizations currently with the Reds, one of the assistant coach is now the head coach. East Carolina has got incredible reputation. Another guy's a professional coach and a couple other guys or friends that are division three in division two coaches. So just being around a lot of really good people that that were also really good through jobs that were highly motivated to to turn that program around and they invested in us is people, so you know from that side of it, Obviously, it would have been hard to not do something like this. But there's definitely a lot of really positive mentorships and influence and guidance, not always the lobby W Hey, you're the best lot of powerful, especially later on process. But I think there's a lot of value in your honest assessment, clear assessment, and I struggle with that and not to delve too far off topic here. But my freshman year, I played a lot of freshman, thought I was great. A lot of myself value was tied into being, uh, you know, starting in the SEC as a freshman and then the midway through the year cane. They realize that the SEC was a lot better than I Waas and I'm struggling. I pounded. I didn't know how to respond, and it was tough. There's a really tough period there for about six months and had great guidance from my bad. My mom and my high school coach, the Times mothers, but the college coaches was tough and I had to either get better or get gone, and I got a little bit better. Better enough to stick around. But that probably Maybe you want to succeed even Mawr to to some level being as a player as a coach. So a long answer. Your first question. I think it's just really good mentor ship that that kind of pushing in that direction and probably I probably realized was okay. Um, really early on in the process, my father and brother picks always said, You know, do something you love and, you know, try to be your own boss and I I've got oversights. We've got athletic situation here and presidents and board trustees, and they're all very supportive of the the student athlete experience here, Davidson. But you know, being the head coach, there's a lot of what you could have on your program. We try to give our players a lot of of, say, try to the other Coach is a lot of say, and I think that's something that I value the input of all those guys you know, the end of day. It's still gonna be my decision and things, but I think I found something that I really enjoy and even if it's not traditionally that there's not many 9 to 5. The weekends are based off far from it this summer. You know, when you get the summer, you got to go to the beach or right now. Okay, so you got camps like now, summers, actually, this year that it was spring in the fall. So, um, there's definitely some times you made you question it early on with Is this the right thing? If I lose this relationship, is this the right thing or, you know, I've got a college degree and I saw it. I was a volunteer assistant Sanford, and you're not getting paid a whole lot in those rules. That's part of it. And that probably that probably was the biggest thing for me was how much I enjoyed it. Even though some of the the basic needs of food shelter like good stuff, we're not not super straightforward that time.
[00:16:15] spk_1: Eso true, though, and I think that's important to I'll say, from my perspective, a lot of the work that I've done is I don't even know if you know this, that I took a secretary job with a master's degree, just so I could work my way up to be where I wanted to in the wellness industry and then started my own business. But the thing is, is if you have, if you can set yourself up to sometimes, yeah, money is needed and you have you may have to do multiple jobs, but if you can start doing that thing that you love every day, you my father's always told me that if you love what you do every day, you'll never work a day in your life. And I think big part of that, too, is whenever you love your career, it's not that it's not stressful, and it's not that you're gonna have sucky times, and it's not. That is gonna be the easy cakewalk, but you can adapt and overcome a little bit better. So I love toe talk about that a bit because you're in baseball. It is a game of wins and losses, and sometimes there's more losses than there are wins. But for you, you've had a lot of winning records. Mhm. So how do you think your love of your for what you do translates on the field for your players?
[00:17:33] spk_0: You hope they see it, e think you know, in college and high school is around a lot of guys that you could see it. I've been ableto work for your assistant coach to different head coaches with very different personalities. Uh, but both really good people that treated me well, I think I've been really fortunate in my baseball career early in life to be around people that are good people. I have a lot of guys that were my age and maybe started off in college coaching that because of the lack of income, may be starting out or they work for a really tough boss that maybe didn't care about those people as much. Um, that aren't doing it now. So I've been really fortunate I had maybe some opportunities for jobs that paid a little bit more early on that after a lot of thought and prayer and, uh, probably too much thought that yeah, I chose not to do. And some people thought, man, you're doing you should go there. And, you know, looking back, it was the right decision, So I was really fortunate. Good counsel, uh, clear guidance in those, um, with the players seeing it especially, Ah, college educated, A smart guy. Um, they're gonna know if you're being genuine or not. And they're gonna if you're prepared for the day, they're going to know most of them are gonna if you truly care, Not some guys will. He yelled at me or I'm not starting. He doesn't care. And I don't I don't think that's the case with most of guys. Certainly does exist to some level. We try to be really transparent with, um, try to give them the idea of where they stand, where we're going, how they fit into it. And is it perfect communication? No, absolutely not. That's something that I really try to use this last nine months to get better. And, uh but I think if the guys, they're going to see it and there's some coaches that maybe you're up and down. I think for me consistency the same demeanor is incredibly important, you know, for a coach, but also for the players. You know, I think that the guys that you know, what you're getting day in and day out, the as coaches, you kind of gravitate towards them. You could have more trust with them. on the field and you know there's a comfort level there. So for us, we realize that there's 18 1920. There's gonna be this, not, you know, they're aliens for us and really the last point 2.5 years now I probably tried it. I probably mawr thinking about off the field things with them that the team, the team development, the individual development from the person that is as the player. And that's been something that as much as I love the X's and O's the endgame strategy, I think that's been a really been a bigger focus. And that again, to me, that plays into the bigger picture off the human being, the type of person. And we talked this year. Given the weirdness of this year, there should be a handful of games replacing teams this year that are flat out better players than us. Um, there might be a couple that we might have a little bit more talented players, but you know the game of baseball. There's a a lot of similarities in our talent level this year and Heather option listen to guys for the Kansas City Chiefs Town. He talked about? They thought their guys can see chiefs, you know, super changes last year, the scoreboard. Dolan. You know, he was a 2020. This. Okay, well, an Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City. That scoreboard works. Uh, you know, Bryant, Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa. Val available. That scoreboard works. And, you know, we talked with our guys. We're gonna We're gonna play a South Carolina. We're gonna play a Duke or Wake Forest. Uh, there have a nice big scoreboard and it's gonna turn going. We have, Ah, five year old scoreboard here. That's that's nice. And it works and there's a winner and loser each game. And for us, I think it's been really getting the guys to focus on. It's okay to have ups and downs, but the end of day, when you're between those lines, it's about competing for that common goal. And yet we're absolutely not gonna win every game this year. As a coach, I can handle that. I really can. I think for us that the focus is there. If the effort is there, we can handle the rest of you know what I'm gonna make mistakes with with strategy and game. That's part of it. I can live with you guys making physical mistakes. That is gonna happen. Our job is to get those guys the best place. Mentally, they could be eso they're just point. And as you well know, especially with a 20 year old athlete, there's so many things that go into that and much less than this year. So that's been really kind of a cool. I don't want to call it a struggle or a battle. That's been really kind of cool learning thing for us. We talked about it a lot. We try to get input from different guys on things, and, uh, if we could get in the will be the best team we could be Mentally, you know, the physical part things to take care of itself, that you're in critical points, so get kind of a longer answer to your question. But I think the guys who you care about them, if they can see your about what you're doing, that's where that's players, your co workers, your management. I think it shines through. I think that's the beauty. Uh, so we see about technology I don't love, but if you're if you're a hard if you're a hard worker, um, people confined you much like if you're really talented athlete and you're in Montana both the beauty of social media with video, you know, college recruiters confined you. I think if you're really talented writer, there's ways to get published that the world can see it online that maybe even 20 years ago didn't exist. You could get your story out there for good and bad. Uh, you know, so for us, I think each ties back to a za coaches. I think we're passionate about what we do, and we're fairly meticulous in the recruiting process. We have a lot of guys that want to be a Davidson for the academics for the school sign. That's incredibly important. And I learned that by watching some programs that other places that maybe didn't have the right fit or people that weren't here for the right reason and there's a lot of transfers, a lot of guys leaving girls paying on sport and for us we want people that want to be here. We also want them to be really successful baseball. We're not use academics as a crutch or why we can't win a baseball game and it's a challenge and it's not for everyone. And that's fine. You know, if a guy who recruited by Psycho she all you are, you know, national profile, enough for baseball, For you, that's fine. A guy says, Coach, I can't handle the academic club. I'd much rather know that is a junior in high school that is a software in college. So I think it's a lot that goes into it and you start getting the right people on the bus, we'll figure out we're going. And some of those good good analogies out e think we certainly buy into that to some level.
[00:24:11] spk_1: And I think that's really important to just to note that if people can't see your love, your passion for this, I think that they have to be deaf or blind because I think it's just I like I said, I know your heart and that was my goal for this too. Especially having you on is having people like you that care for the players and we will be in joke like this, too, because we were talking back and forth about what the title of this would be and one of them we had we had touched on was a possibility of talking about how you're not sorry for caring for your people, are for your students or athletes. Is two people hurt? Because But I think that shows. And I think that's so important, but understanding, especially where you're at. It's a high performance, high perfection environment at times where, you know, we've talked about this. We want to go from the model of a progression over print perfection. But like all the words for these years that you have these people and you just cared and you poured out, and I think that's important for what you're not. Sorry is if you never loved your career, you couldn't deal with it because there's a lot of because we've also talked about that. I'll flying on whenever you come in the coaching thing, there are things that happen in life. You're like, Whoa, I didn't know. I thought I was just doing skills. And then there's other things that pop up. So for people that are apologizing for loving their career, what would you tell them
[00:25:37] spk_0: who, um, you know, the easy copout answers. Every situation is different, but I think for me and when things have come up, be a career, things within the career, things with work, life, balance. I think that, you know, one. I've always had a good support system. My wife is Scottish of baseball is not something that she had a whole heck of lot about now. And she she doesn't make you understand the nuances of a double switch. But you know, the home run is and, you know, strikeout, not good stuff. So I think she's been great to have that support. I think the administration or former coach head coach Dick Coke is our sport oversight. And he's been a great sounding board. You know, the our assistant coaches Ryan longer Parker, Baines, Aaron Lissack and Don't Elbert. They all are really invested in kind of same concept, not just in the baseball side, but they care about kids. And e think you've got a lot of people you know, rowing the boat in the same direction. You're gonna have some good things there. So, for me, you know, in a broad sense, if you know whatever your basis for decision making is, um follow that. And for me and I'm a believer first and foremost at the end of the day, you know, I'm gonna follow what I think you know. The Lord wants me dio and if the world if you know, guys on the team and other coaches have disagree with that, but I feel like that's right with him, I'll figure it out at some point. I'm not too worried about it. So for me, whatever your your your north star is your raw your foundation at the end of day for me, you gotta go with that. Secondly, I think that, you know, you have to make sure you're doing something you love and whether that's your recreational activity. Whether that Z you know your job. I think you've gotta be truly invested into it. And you think you have to be okay with Hey, this is a priority. It's a priority. I think this is a thing I mentioned to you the cool book I read a year or two ago. I actually went back and reread it about six months ago. But atomic habits, they I'm a botches. I'm not that smart. But there's a is example whether true or not, it stuck with me and guy walks up on a couple, two guys outside a restaurant and, you know, a guy walks up and because, hey, you guys have a light and the first guy goes, uh, man, I'm trying to quit. But, you know, here's here's my cigarette lighter and the second guy goes, I'm glad he does, because I'm not. I don't smoke cigarettes now. Both men were actually trying to quit, but the first one say, I I'm trying to quit. The second guy says, I'm not a cigarette smoker. So for me, that really shows you How do we self identify? Uh, and for a lot of my thought, what if I'm a baseball coach? I've got no issue is saying that a lot of my decisions were made through that length. So if you're a stay at home mom and some people might, Trump knows that. But that's what you want to do, and your family is good with it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you stay at home, dad, you know what society like? Well, you know, it's different. Um, there's nothing wrong with that. Has nothing wrong that if you work a part time job, but you love it and you've got other priorities and your support system. People that rely on you are good with it, man Rocket, you know, go with it. So, you know, I don't know. That's a really good advice, but for me, it's what you're what you're getting like, What's your foundation? What's your North Star? And they're the people around you to write people. If not, you know, maybe like the old spring cleaning. Maybe you guys kind of people out or reposition them, you know, within your closet, and there's nothing wrong. You know, the old, the old cliches. Life's too short and then you hit. You hit on that, your spirit of influence earlier, the people you surround yourself with if you've got you know, there's some show that that my wife watches it's real housewives or home records of something, and I'm sure there are great people. Maybe, but if I you know, if I was once cast members on that show, I couldn't handle the drama. Not maybe not how I operate, but if you want to run that circle, that's how you function better. We'll do it, but for me, if I had some of those people you know were on the chopping block and and that's and that's just me. I might be a little simpleton on that, but that's how I would operate.
[00:30:01] spk_1: No. And I think it's so true because like I said, like, we've talked throughout this, your sphere of influence matters and I think that's so important. I think this actually pulls up a good comment that James put out. It says if you or Mike, if you live your life with love, you will love the life you live and that's the thing. And not only just the people, but also the things that you were doing. So I am so grateful for you to join me today record. So if anybody does, they hear this. You're like, Hey, I may want to reach out to him And by the way, you have a Wikipedia page. I didn't even know that. Just f y eso don't get him on Wikipedia because I'm bet you I know how he is with technology. He s O. But if people do want to reach out or may just want to have a discussion, maybe deeper, how could they How could they find you?
[00:30:53] spk_0: Yeah. So it's just not a ton of tech. I do have Twitter. I think it's just at Rucker. Taylor, You know, I'm the fourth named after my great grandfather, but, um, my grandfather grandfather not living. And my dad is his last text savvy. And I am So Rucker Taylor on Twitter and in my email is are you so the first two first two letters of Rucker are you taylor at Davidson dot e d u. Yeah. We love to, you know, sports non school related. Well, to talk. And yeah, they said earlier, I've learned so much from from, you know, shows like this, uh, Indian man in particular. You have, ah, sports slant on it have been wonderful. And as you know, I think I think Andy's, uh, one. I've said his information called people today, and I think what he's doing is tremendous. And, you know, everybody's got any kind of story for me that might help on the baseball side. Or personally, if I could listen or, you know, give any kind of thoughts would be more than happy to. And all of our athletes went home at Thanksgiving we've got eight weeks about them. And the honey to do list is only so long. So I've got some time, eh? So we would love to chat with whoever, Uh, be also, yes. So Twitter's at record. Taylor and emails. Are you Taylor, David? Somebody you I think my dad has linked in. Thank you. Chastise me for not having it. So
[00:32:12] spk_1: yeah, I have just a few times. Okay. Really going to get you on. There
[00:32:16] spk_0: s Dad's also talked to a different conversation, Maybe.
[00:32:22] spk_1: Well, I appreciate you so much. And I thank you for all that tune in having Amazing and Blessed Day. Thank you so much for tuning in to this episode of unapologetically bold. I'm not sorry for If this touch shoot anyway, please, like and subscribe and share with your friends as we continue the message of being unapologetically bold, Bobby and hot humans who are humble, open and transparent. See you next time