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[00:00:01] spk_0: year after year after year. I hear people tell me that they do not want to pay large subscription fees or for memberships to be able to get access to content related to safety. So me and my friends here it's Safety FM have come up with an idea called Safety FM. Plus, this is a video streaming service that allows you to have some downloadable document content available readily. Wherever you are, you can go to the website Safety FM plus dot com or go to the Apple Store app and downloading for your iPhone, iPad or even Apple TV. It's also available on Android and Android TV Broke You and Fire TV Way wannabe, wherever you are. So to get you started, you can come to the website or download, the APP says we just discussed. The other great portion about this is that if you sign up right now and safety FM plus dot com, you will get a downloadable version of Simple Revolutionary Acts, the first book by Dr Todd Conklin as part of your membership. To get into this. So go right now to safety FM plus dot com to find out more information that its safety FM plus dot com. Do you eat the Revolution? This'll episode is powered by Safety FM. Welcome to the safety consultant. Podcast on your hose shoulder prime is thistles the podcast where I show you the business of being a safety consultant and this week and I have something special for you something that I have not done before, which is kinda cool for me. But I'm actually going to play something that was, well, he'll technically be a rebroadcast for me. So this is coming from safety a f M plus on. And if you have not heard of Safety FM plus, you need to like ASAP. So if you're not driving, you know I'm gonna do this if you're driving, So let's go ahead and go to safety FM plus dot com. So this was a brainchild of J. Allen, and he actually is the heart and soul behind the whole safety FM network. He had the idea of Let's see if we could do something a little differently and differently equal. How can we get safety content out there to individuals for such a low price? That'll be, You know, you cannot resist to go ahead and sign up for this thing. And hey did it. So this is a platform that you could not on Lee have on your computer, but it's available now. IPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Android, Android TV, Roku and Fire TV from Amazon. So it's truly where you wanna be. You could just sit back and watch content that is good to be safety content. That's wonderful for you. So I know in the last year he saw the, uh, hurt when he was doing on this podcast about the Revolution and the revolution begins thistles it. So this is that this is the fulfillment of that revolution. So what I'm gonna do in today's show is he has a playlist out there, and this one is available to the public. And, uh, all you have to do is good. A safety FM plus dot com browse through the playlist and you want to get around the safety pod. And there's been three episodes at the time of this recording, and with permission, I have three opportunity to play Mac one of the episodes. So that's what we're gonna do today. We're gonna go around the safety pod and what that means And I'm a I'm a podcast joke, Ika. I gotta be riel. I listen to the podcast in and out of safety all the time. And this show is specifically any safety show in or out the safety FM network that catches his attention. J as in his, uh, you can actually put this on here on another person who is responsible for this is, Well, is Doctor Todd Conklin. So you got Dr J. Allen you got Dr Todd Can't going together. And they created this around the safety pod. So with Todd J. Truly, you're hearing collection and just little snippets of collection from different safety podcasts give you a little hint. I'm in this one, which is awesome. Eso I'd like you to tell you what position, because it is ranked, but it's ranked in no certain order. It's just so that there's some order to it. But it's not as in this Invest versus this is not best. It's actually just a ordered franking, but not ranking by. This is the best show versus the not that show. So put that out there. Uh, there's many playlists on safety FM, so please, I would just tell you. Go ahead and subscribe today to it. Thesis in the paid advertising in any way, E Just believe in the product because I'm even one of those playlists. So when you go onto playlist section of safety FM plus calm look at the channels channels represents playlist around the safety pod is where we're gonna be today. But if you go to waste your compliance help with Sheldon Prime miss, guess who that is? That's me. So I actually have four videos that once you subscribe to Safety FM plus, you can actually go ahead and listen to things that aren't geared anywhere else. This is on Lee on the safety FM plus network. So I created this and I e I sent it over to J so that you can have this on. And then also, uh, there are other, uh, just things that people have given to him. So truly, you really need to check out the safety FM on dot com subscribe. It's very affordable For subscription. You have to two ways of subscribing. He could subscribe monthly for 9 99 for a month, and that's a three day free trial or you can subscribe for the annual That's 99 95. So those are the two different ways that you can subscribe without any further ado, we're going to go ahead and do the around the safety pod show things is gonna be episode three And after this, you're just gonna hear the music fate now, So have fun with this one. I did really, really enjoyed these. So I'll see you on Safety FM plus G o. Well, a well, welcome to Episode three around the safety podcasts. A lot of people enjoying Episode two So let me tell you what the goals are for this show today. We're trying to get you in and out in less than 30 minutes to let you know exactly what is going on around the podcast world related to safety. That's why we have our little show here around the safety pied Thank you. Over the last week, we actually hung out with Todd Conklin on the pre accident investigation, having a discussion on what the show's about. Anyways, this particular show is the brainchild of yours truly and Todd Conklin. But let's not talk anymore and let's get you into the mix with clip number 10 here on around the safety pod things Captain Josh Roundtree. I'm the global vigilance combined test force chief of safety. So I'm Colonel Warburg's chief of safety over his squadron over there. And I'm also a test pilot for the for the RPS water as well. My introduction. So I started finding myself into, you know, autonomy type of systems and projects back from an operational test with the with the argue for on we dabble a little bit back then and then, as I went into and I started going through the Air Force's test pilot school. That's where I was really thrown into the deep end about what we're doing with autonomy in ways we're trying to figure out how to test these systems, how to tease out how well they're performing at various tasks that we ask them. Thio s. That's where my my introduction to autonomy came from and where my interest really really began to explode there as well. And so as we go along, I try to find a way to marry up the capabilities of autonomy with remotely piloted aircraft and ultimately, unmanned aircraft. As we as we move forward in this field. It's a pretty exciting time to be. Oh, excellent. Thanks for doing about Lieutenant Avery over to you. Tell us about what you're working on. Hey, this is Lieutenant every Leonard. I'm the deputy chief engineer of the emerged on All the CTF. Been on, in other words, for about a year now and came right to the e T C T f. And we mostly handles flight test for small us. So typically, we provide a surrogate us platform for our customers to come in and fly their autonomy on. Really? We actually do a lot of data collection for these developers early on, in the development of their autonomy, were not doing so much actual evaluation of it Like a finished product. We're very early in the the testing, so we actually normally do a lot of tests on simulation First, even that the e t c t f. Before we actually go in flight tested on. We actually usually bring the autonomy developers out as well toe operate their autonomy. So it's interesting what we do out here looking forward to talking more about that. All right, Thanks. And then how Finally for you and what you're currently working on. Yeah, sure. I'm Lieutenant Colonel Brian Heffron. Go by, Hal. I'm the director of curriculum standards at test pilot school. And I'm also working on a variety of ai and, you know, kind of machine learning topics as applied Thio aircraft. In particular, we've been leading some tea MPs at test pilot school. Right. So test management projects, uh, for for those not familiar with them, they're kind of short programs about 22 weeks in length, where we'll go out and do some flight tests. Of course, there's a lot of work leading up to that flight test in terms of planning and execution or in terms of the planning, we have the execution window and the reporting, you know, kind of after the execution window there. Of course, our students are the ones really pushing the envelope on these on these tests. But we've had a variety of autonomy and a I related tests recently, one of which was the have spiders program, which I'm sure you'll hear more about in the future here from voodoo that put some autonomy on ai, if you will, on to and F 16 and we went out fluid here last march. We have a handful of other ones coming up that we're gonna be utilizing the calcium family or jet for in particular, taking a look at some symptoms. Aerial challenges that exist as you start to apply, uh, advanced talk autonomy to, you know, our aircraft domain. If you're trying to train an AI agent how to control on aircraft and simulation, there are a lot of considerations with transitioning that, uh, that agent that was trained and stimulation to being able to fly and execute in the real world. So we're starting to tackle some of those problems. Aziz. Well, with upcoming projects again, this, uh, this coming march eso so definitely a lot more to follow their Andi. I guess I'll kind of leave it at that for now. We do have, ah, a lot of other work going on as well, but we can We can dive into those weeds and a little bit. Well, that clip is coming to you directly off the flight test safety channel. That is Episode 13. I was watching 2000 and one space odyssey the other night. That's normally how it starts off a lot of stuff going on on that particular one. Take a listen when you get a chance. Now let's go into clip number nine in no particular order with mix. I feel like you've

[00:12:45] spk_2: said before Missile, that is like the best and the worst thing that you have Absolutely the best, worst thing ever. I was really, um I was glad to go in not knowing anything, like I literally went in completely blind, and some people say That's good. Some people say that's bad and you should have an idea. I was really glad I went in, not knowing anything. Um, the first night we met our attack officers, I didn't know it was coming, had no idea what to expect. So I was like, whatever and woke up and ran out there and just did it, you know? I didn't know it was coming for me. So ignorance was bliss in that way, you know? Yeah, So either way, I mean, you just have to make up your mind to stay. Anyone who says they didn't think about quitting is lying. You sit in a classroom after all your stuff's been thrown around, and your body hurts and you haven't slept and you're saying that Is it worth it? And in that moment, you just have to make the decision that it is and the ones that stay or the ones that no, it's worth it. And wannabe, they're the ones that go over the ones that you know. It's not worth it to them. So

[00:13:47] spk_0: you know, it's definitely been rewarding, however, so far the best job you can have. Yeah, influential people's lives. And definitely, definitely. Okay, that clip is coming to you from Oklahoma Highway Patrol Train like a trooper podcast. That's no joke there, as I say that. And this was episode numero dose, what it means to be a trooper, the 67th Oklahoma Highway Patrol Academy, anyway. So that's if you're interested in becoming a Highway Patrol person in Oklahoma. So let's continue going around the podcast world with around the safety pod. Here's your next one. A thief in the mix. So I went back to my office, found a very interesting OSHA presentation titled Business Case for Safety. It was published, actually made available back in 2000 and four, and there it waas. In that presentation, I found the answer Why? Compliance is not the real answer to all these problems. Uh, I have never done the cost benefit analysis before. I have never done O S H risk assessment before. And I quickly realized that in order to convince the CEO, I needed to learn to speak their language. So a such professionals should be speaking in a language that the upper management commonly users. And, uh, that is the language of risk, not compliance. Well, that particular clip is coming off of the A s s p safety podcast. The case for safety thean importance of risk management. Unfortunately, the episodes air, not number. So I can't give you the number for that one. But pretty good clip there. I have to tell you. So let's continue on with around the safety pod. And here is number seven coming your way.

[00:15:55] spk_3: Yes, I say, my look, my business. It was like the plug being pulled on it. Really? In the middle of March s o. A lot of my clients a food based, so obviously a lot of them had to close. The majority of them have had to furlough their star s o a lot aren't even trading and also the enforcement side of it. That stopped as well. Because I was a consultant, say the guys I work with, they're still carrying on eso. I've been still giving advice over the phone. I've actually written some covert 19 policies for some new clients, just that they could still be up and running. So a couple of electrician's so doing some work for them. Uh, I've also then tried to adapt the way that I'm working. So I currently while I waas doing some training or face to face training, I'm registered center with high field learning on when they produced some really, really good courses, unfortunately, have been able to obviously do that face to face stuff. So I'm now set up to be some online training. So he learning eyes, something that I'm from an enforcement point of view. It sort of takes the box. It's not something that I feel comfortable in a ways or producing for clients. I don't think it's the best training resource, but it's a means to an end. And actually, for a lot of people that have been furloughed, it's still being able to keep their hand in on. There's quite a few, you know, that need updating on a certain level thio health and safety, food safety, allergy and that sort of training on it. It's a really good resource for them. I think Anything beyond level Thio I don't think it's really the best way to go back training. But let's say it sort of takes the box.

[00:17:41] spk_0: Really? Yeah, well, that one came off of the safety podcast, but that's safety with an eye with Richard Collins. And that's from the episode where he interviewed Shana Darley. You can find it on your favorite podcast catcher. Anyways, let's continue on with around the safety podcast. And here is clip number six just for you in the mix. Anyway, there's the Star Wars analogy. So between Susie and Bread and Willie and you and even I throw Cosette and Leia in there, um, that's some That's incredible company. So nice work. All right, now that you've been the director of Micron have VHS for, I think six years now, what is it about people people that really motivates you to protect them? Yeah, you know, this is one, and I'm gonna I'm gonna You know, kind of give out kind of the cliche response, unfortunately, But I think for me, um, it's really important for me. You know, I'm I'm a mother. I'm a wife. I have a very close knit family. Um, and that is what I think about when I goto work. When I commute to work when I'm at work and that is what I think about when I think of, you know, my co workers, my colleagues, three employees that that I've been tasked to provide, you know, safety and health services for at Micron. And it's that aspect that, you know, having people really come to work and leave work, you know, the same way that they came into the door is very important to my team, and I and we've echoed it repeatedly throughout this pandemic on Ben throughout all of the other, you know, different types of safety activities that we have going on at a company like micron, and it is incredibly important to me. And that is my high motivator thinking about, you know, people's families, the impact that ah, life altering injury, um, or fatality or something of that nature can have to those individuals that you know depend on their family member, not just for income, but for you know, it's there, person. It's a it's, you know, it's part of their family, their friends, you know. And unfortunately, throughout my career, you know I've had or seen events, life altering injuries or fatalities where you know you've had to deliver that message to someone's close friends or their family, and it's devastating. You see the devastation with people. So our profession being out there being available, being that extra set of eyes that is looking out for people putting those mitigation policies, practices, um, engineering and different types of controls in place is so important because, you know, when you walk onto a campus or you walk into a working environment, sometimes you know people just, you know, depending on what's on their mind each day, you know, might not think about different things. And so, you know, having us there being that extra set of eyes, being those people that are looking out for them is really important to me. Just because I want everybody Thio to know that we care we're there for them. We're here to help them. We're not here to be a burden or trouble, but we are here to help. And we really, truly want people to go home the same way that they came so that they can enjoy that time with their friends and family, because that's why we all work. You know, money is a great motivator, but it's not the top motivator. And we really want, um, you know, people to enjoy their lives with their friends and family and people that you know are meaningful to them. Okay, so that clip came off of storytelling in Safety, hosted by Tim Page Seven Steps to a Great Pandemic Response with Ashley Coons. So they're Ugo. So let's continue going down the path of around the safety pied as we get you moving and grooving with 30 minutes or less off. What's going on inside of this world of safety? Let's do the next one, but let's do it right now. That makes a few years ago, I was reading through some training slide decks for R and D, otherwise known as rip off and duplicate purposes. A huge, bold statement caught my eye and dropped my jaw. Statement was beyond asinine at first blush, but I wanted Thio texted my friends, who have written about a few times on relating the safety dot com. I saved the text because I knew I'd want to recall the story someday. Me. Hey, Rich, have you ever cut yourself shaving Rich? Of course me. Did you choose to rich? No, but I learned not to shave while drinking. The text went on for much longer and devolved into comments that I probably shouldn't ever publish. I don't need people knowing how twisted I am in real life. Suffice it to say that our friendship is partly predicated on an unspoken challenge to see who can say something so vile that the other can no longer reply. For the record, Rich is the only person who could beat me at that came the statement was, well, something the slide that had caught my attention proudly and boldly read. If you believe all accidents are preventable, then you have to believe all accidents are a choice. Well, I'm fully aware that there are many who think things like that. I'm still amazed when people try to sell their non secretary arguments. Toe. Others is fact the part that bothered me. Wasn't the touting of the tired. All accidents are preventable Mantra. Let me pause there. Well, the pious among us. Stop listening. What bothered me was the second statement. E can't wrap my head around. Any reason why it would be helpful to tell people that it certainly won't do anything to stop people from getting hurt, but it will offend those who have been. Yeah, well, that particular clip comes off of relentless safety. Snakebites with Jason Maldonado. That was episode number eight. Razors will never not be sharp. Anyways, let's go back around the world of podcasting and safety and let's get you Thio. Clip number four One of the first jobs

[00:24:11] spk_1: I had actually was being, ah, sales person for a company that was an agent for what were called sip in pumps, which I'm sure you're way too young to remember. But they were small individual monitoring pumps that people wore in the factory, um, to monitor the exposure to organic solvents. Yeah, eso I helped him sell those for a while, so I got some sales experience. Um, met quite a few people. I think really, it was a case of meeting as many people as possible. I'm just trying to remember them on keeping in touch with them. So lots and lots of amusing stories. It's really hard to pick out any of them, but I suppose in a to a large extent I was pretty much self taught. But e think my advice for anybody setting up in business is that it's all about your network. It's all about who you know what you know about them, who they can introduce you to. It's all about following up with them, keeping in touch with people, and then they can recommend you and help you. But it's really not for the faint hearted, because there are quite a few disappointments that happened along the way. So you've got to be pretty resilient. Yeah, on I was thinking that actually about the covert mhm because to start with when we were working from home, obviously I was based in the house all day with no computer access to anything like that, Only a landline. The highlight of the day for me would be if someone had paid us on bearing in mind, it would be by check. I'd walk into the village where there was a bank. I paid the check in and then I'd walk back a slightly different way. Um, just have a break on duh. Then get on with the work again.

[00:26:33] spk_0: Well, that clip is coming to you from safer than your average podcast hosted by Blair Boyd. That was the episode featuring Shirley Parsons, also known as Episode 30. Anyways, let's continue on down the path and talking about some other things going on around the safety pod way. Go now with clip number three on around the safety pod. Theo Tha. And the other thing, too, is, is why we're on this conversation is what makes my walk a little bit more difficult is that in my ministry coaching aspect, my specialization is sexual assault, domestic violence, intimate partner, violence, right? And so that you know, I'm trauma informed, trained and all this other type of stuff. So when I get into safety, like I said, I keep people safe. I keep women and, you know, men, they get violated as well. Um, so from these acts of violence, But the thing about it is we never talk about the sexual assault. We never talk about the domestic violence that now becomes workplace violence. Way kind of talking about a little bit, but we don't really talk about it because we don't really want to go into all of that stuff because that had home. But there was an article once. This is when home comes toe work and I just start. I just took off running. I'm like, That's right, because home does come to work. And if there's domestic violence at at home is gonna be workplace violence at work. I tell you, the number of women that I mentor that have been set assaulted at work, a safety people, your safety person. There is nothing but guys. Somebody assaults you, and you're just supposed to take it or not say anything. If you want to continue being a safety person and I'm like this'll should not happen and so that is day and time, right? You should what he does. Well, that clip comes to you from Episode 101 from the safety consultant podcasts, and that is the episode with Insana Dylan from my friend Sheldon. Promise. Let's continue going down the path and talking about what is going on on around the safety pied right now. Well, the reason I kind of wanted to cover this today, Dan, And, uh, this will probably be a very short episode, but it's timely. Um, there's, ah, deadline. That's coming right up. Uh, so let's back up a little bit and talk about what What you're required to do for for OSHA recording of injuries and reporting. So OSHA has a series of forms, um called the 300 Siri's. And on Ocean 300 you write in your recordable accident. So accidents that are injuries, I guess injuries or illnesses would be the best way to put it that meet a certain criteria. They they say in

[00:29:48] spk_2: the in the form itself and in the instructions that will say what that criteria is. So

[00:29:55] spk_0: you record the accidents that happened at your workplace that year. Um, at the end of the year, you summarize it on OSHA 300 A. And you have that summary data and you post it from February 1st, April 30th every year. And then for each accident that you've logged on your 300 log, there's a 301 form and that form is detailed information about each of those injuries or illnesses. So most people don't use a 301 You're allowed to use a substitute for me as long as it has the same information. So you could use an accident report, for example, instead of the 301 So most people are keeping these OSHA three hundreds on, then doing the 300 a at the end of the year and then posting it from February through April. Okay, well, that clip has come to you from spot on safety from I work wise at his episode 30 OSHA 300 reporting anyway, So now we have made it to our number one clip from around the safety pied. And here we go now enjoy it now, Now, now e za very small amount of people compared to the population of a country that they don't twitter. So yeah, it's still important, though it's still important, though it's important stuff going on there. I just wish I just I find it very upsetting and sad and quiet, disappointing that it's got to that at least on some level, because I feel like there's some really good people with some great ideas And if we all e no, it sounds a bit you taping, but I just think, Why? Why are people falling out with each other? Is on Why do people feel like what's most important here is to be right, rather than to support service users and to support a better mental health system on it feels like. Sometimes people feel like it's more important to be right than Thio than to actually do something positive for, you know, social change in this area. And maybe, but also also, I think, Helen, like there's this opportunities that are pretty clear for compromise that don't seem to be grasped like one side doesn't like the diagnostic system things really bad. And there's this new alternative, the power threat, meaning framework. And that does to be, you know, the best. The other side of things. Oh, no, absolutely, no. We just need diagnosis just, you know, sit around the table. Andi just, you know, decided that you can choose between one of them. I mean, it's it's so easy, you know, they could just do it tomorrow. Yes, the problem is, is that the people would say, Well, I am right on that s I'm saying, Well, this is I'm making a binary distinction here between being right, Onda changing the mental health system for the better. And I guess some people would say, Well, the only way to change them and who else is better is to do this and this and that. Those two things like, for example, diagnosis and old anti diagnosis cannot coexist in the same world that they are intrinsically oppositional. I don't necessarily think that's true, but I can see how framing off it is. And I guess for me the problem is that those debates are not equal. Yes, that's what becomes so fractious and so unpleasant is there's inequality and power and abuse wrapped up within it. Yeah, you're right. There are a huge amount of option. And what I think what disappoints me is how those opportunities are constantly squandered. Any time people get a chance to get together and actually have these conversations way and I mean me, and this is well, I'm not saying I'm any better than anyone else in this is we don't be able Thio grasp those opportunities on do something better with them. We seem to constantly reproduce the very problems that we're trying Thio overcome rather than you know, we could see the problems clearly. But in what we do, we reproduced, Um, rather than kind of resolve them or get or do something different. And I think that's what's so depressing. It's like the same with capitalism, isn't it? You know, whilst we criticize capitalism, we hate it. But what we tend to do is reproduce the very things that capitalism does to us going, and it's like, How do we get out of? But how do we start to behave in ways that are compassionate? Well, that clip came to you from a place of safety Episode 36. So that's going to sum up our show for today. 10 clips around the world of safety less than 30 minutes. Did your favorite show make it onto the episode? If not, you can come out to safety FM plus on and let us know what is going on. And why did your show not make the kite? Maybe it will be on next time. You want to take a listen to the previous episodes of around the safety pod. You can find him at safety FM plus dot com. Once you get there, you can download the app and watch them anywhere, and I mean anywhere. Anyways, this will bring us off to an end of this episode. I would like to thank Dr Todd Conklin for the inspiration of doing this lovely show and to you for taking a listen to what is going on right here. We'll be back in a very short period of time with another episode of around the safety pied I'll See you this'll Episode Has been Powered by Safety FM.