Playing bigger everyday with Brenden Kumarasamy
October 7, 2020
Do you play bigger or stay in your comfort zone?
In this episode of Unapologetically Bold, Brenden talks about why he is not sorry for playing bigger and challenging people in the art of communication and public speaking.
He packs a punch of wisdom and inspiration on inviting you to play bigger.
About the Guest:
If there's one word that describes Brenden, it would be impacted.
He is passionate about helping others achieve rocket level success, whether it's helping others overcome their fear of public speaking, helping startups with their pitch decks to raise capital, or helping clients transition to better technology HR solutions to help them do business better with IBM.
Do you play bigger or stay in your comfort zone?
In this episode of Unapologetically Bold, Brenden talks about why he is not sorry for playing bigger and challenging people in the art of communication and public speaking.
He packs a punch of wisdom and inspiration on inviting you to play bigger.
About the Guest:
If there's one word that describes Brenden, it would be impacted.
He is passionate about helping others achieve rocket level success, whether it's helping others overcome their fear of public speaking, helping startups with their pitch decks to raise capital, or helping clients transition to better technology HR solutions to help them do business better with IBM.
So our bots haven't totally got this down yet but we will give them a little grace and enjoy.
[00:00:01] spk_1: Welcome to unapologetically bold. I'm not sorry for If you are a person that is tired of apologizing for being you, you know the human part of you that sometimes feels like it has to be different at home versus work versus play. The human side that just wants to be hot, humble, open, and transparent about your wants, desires, and uniqueness. If you answered yes, this podcast is for you. Join me, Emily Elrod as I dive into conversations with Amazing Guest about what they were not sorry for in creative and loving ways. Let's get started. But
[00:00:38] spk_0: it was rented. Make YouTube videos on public speaking. It's a channel called Master Talk and how We Got Started. It was when I was in university. I used to do these things called case competition. So think of it like professional sports but for nerds. So other guys my age would like eat chicken wings and play sports. I would eat those same chicken wings, but I would watch other people present and present competitions. We did that for fun. So anyways, three years went by, got a job in consulting, presented hundreds of times, and I just asked myself the following question after I graduated, which was how do I use my time and expertise to make an impact in the world? That's when the idea for the channel came to be.
[00:01:18] spk_1: I love it and it's so amazing toe watch you and be able to see how you speak so elegantly. And I know that didn't come on day one, but it was a lot of processes. So I guess this Let's just go into what you're not sorry for, because I know it plays into the public speaking side. So, Brennan, can you tell the world what you're not sorry for?
[00:01:43] spk_0: Yeah, absolutely. I'm not sorry for playing bigger every day, and I think that's that's the message I want people to take away from. All of this is that we play too small in life, you know, we want toe get that 9 to 5 job, and then that's it. And then we don't want to push for Mawr or we don't wanna push for what society doesn't want us to dio. But rather than push for what we want to do, which I think should be the focal point of anyone's life,
[00:02:06] spk_1: so what life experiences Got you Thio here to be like I've been or possibly you might have been playing small growing up some way that you're just like I've got Thio Got to do more.
[00:02:20] spk_0: Yeah, for sure. So So I grew up in very modest beginnings. You know, my my mother worked at a factory. My dad was a hat manager at a company, so they both pretty much worked minimum wage. I didn't have, you know, the things that I always wanted to get in life. You know what? It was like a two chocolate bars or something. I never I never got it. Ever understood why, either? Until I grew up a little more. So basically the focus of my life was how do I get out of poverty? And I think whenever we start our journey, we should always be focused on what the next thing is, rather than just saying, Oh, we should, like, start a YouTube channel or something crazy like that. And then as kind of life went by for May, you know, I grew up in a French education system, so I struggled a lot with presentations because I didn't know the language and all of those things kind of crumpled up together. And so I said when I joined business school, I didn't know a single person in business had no idea what what a company was that I saw in my oversized suit from prom. That's right. So I was pretty clueless. But, you know, over time, you know, learning from mentors and shows like this. You know, I just learned how to how toe get ahead and how to get smart and how Thio train myself to develop myself in a way that most people my age usually don't do. I started listening to podcast when I was 17 and I was listening to podcast two hours a day ever since, and it's gotten me far. And then after that, you know, I focused on getting the accounting job. Then, after I focused on getting the consulting job and then after I got out of poverty, the new question Waas, what do I do? Mawr? Is that all I'm going to do with my life? And then mass truck came into play and I was able to make a bigger impact in the world is all
[00:03:51] spk_1: I love that and the thing that I hear about this is habits that what you have done was not created over one day it waas a combination of one again. I would say you are one of the most emotionally intelligent person to be able Thio self reflect the way that you do, but also the ability to see that you know, it takes time and it's gonna take growth, and I have to put in some work. So what are some of the habits that you would say that you have consistently done to play bigger?
[00:04:26] spk_0: Yeah, And I love this question because I'm gonna answer something that most people don't. You know, I always find it funny when people say things like yoga or meditation or eating yogurt in the morning I go. That's not the point. Those things are important and all that stuff. But the one habit that nobody does that people need to do more of is asked themselves, Ah, hard question every day. If you don't do that, you'll never find your own perspective. So one homework I have for people that I guarantee most people won't do is to write your own funeral speech, because if you do that, you're going to go through life in reverse and you're going to say Okay, well, I have this many years toe live, and that way I can backtrack and figure out what I want to dio. And by ask yourself a very difficult question every day. Like, what are some of the controversial things you believe in that most people don't over time. What starts to happen is you start to develop a unique identity and a unique set of values that nobody else has. And then you start to develop your own point of view of how the world should be, and then you push towards that point of view.
[00:05:27] spk_1: The thing I hear in that that I love is that you shape your life by your choices where 90 plus percent of people I believe shape their environment, shapes them. So how did you do that? Like what? Is it just natural? Or do you just feel it was their again? Just something that sparked it that got you to this?
[00:05:55] spk_0: Yeah, for sure. I think the first thing that I did was I rinsed out a lot of the people that I knew. So what that means is most people. If you think most human beings in life right now, there's around maybe at least 10% of their friends would, or 10% of people they talked or generally negative, if not Mauritz. Probably more than 10% of being honest. But you know, it's around 10%. So a way to figure out who you should actually have in your life, rather than the people are just attract to the image of you is by communicating the weird things that you dio on a daily basis to everyone around you. That isn't illegal, obviously. And by doing that, what ends up happening? And I always said the example right. You know, I can I can sing in eight different languages. I dance alone in my basement an hour a day. Absolutely love Justin Bieber. I don't know why people hated him so much were all of these odd things. But what happened when I did this at a very young age? I probably started doing that when I was 16 or 17. 10% of the people I hung I hung out with would say the following. Oh, I don't really care what you're into. Just be happy, man. Like you would write if I told you all this, which I'm sure, is that the reaction? But the other 90% was surprised. May was they would say things like weight, actually. Do you Wait? That's not true, right? Do you actually listen to that? Isn't that you know that? Actually, that party on Friday, I don't come. Right? So what? What happens is it's very painful in the short term. But you figure out who your real friends are and who actually likes you. And then after that, once you have five or six people who just like you for who you are, then you just do whatever the hell you want. So I think I think that's a good way for people to navigate.
[00:07:29] spk_1: I love that. That makes me think of. I did a class other day with a group of people, and one thing I challenged them is your values. How are you basing your values? What are they based off? Are they based off your circumstances And then you're severe of influence and its impact. And I always say the joke if you're around nine broke people, you're about to be the 10th one, for what they said is, What if you're around? Not amazing people. Could you be the 10th one and really having that look about your severe of influence and how they could be owning your story whenever it's yours? So I admire your ability to do that at such a young age as well. Because again, I believe that's unique in all the people that I speak with, there's not many people. So again, this is the reason why I'm just fascinated with you and your psychology and how you work. So tell me how doing that now has led to your future success and the success that you've seen not only in your work life but also in your your public speaking life.
In this episode of Unapologetically Bold, Brenden talks about why he is not sorry for playing bigger and challenging people in the art of communication and public speaking.
He packs a punch of wisdom and inspiration on inviting you to play bigger.
About the Guest:
If there's one word that describes Brenden, it would be impacted.
He is passionate about helping others achieve rocket level success, whether it's helping others overcome their fear of public speaking, helping startups with their pitch decks to raise capital, or helping clients transition to better technology HR solutions to help them do business better with IBM.
So our bots haven't totally got this down yet but we will give them a little grace and enjoy.
[00:00:01] spk_1: Welcome to unapologetically bold. I'm not sorry for If you are a person that is tired of apologizing for being you, you know the human part of you that sometimes feels like it has to be different at home versus work versus play. The human side that just wants to be hot, humble, open, and transparent about your wants, desires, and uniqueness. If you answered yes, this podcast is for you. Join me, Emily Elrod as I dive into conversations with Amazing Guest about what they were not sorry for in creative and loving ways. Let's get started. But
[00:00:38] spk_0: it was rented. Make YouTube videos on public speaking. It's a channel called Master Talk and how We Got Started. It was when I was in university. I used to do these things called case competition. So think of it like professional sports but for nerds. So other guys my age would like eat chicken wings and play sports. I would eat those same chicken wings, but I would watch other people present and present competitions. We did that for fun. So anyways, three years went by, got a job in consulting, presented hundreds of times, and I just asked myself the following question after I graduated, which was how do I use my time and expertise to make an impact in the world? That's when the idea for the channel came to be.
[00:01:18] spk_1: I love it and it's so amazing toe watch you and be able to see how you speak so elegantly. And I know that didn't come on day one, but it was a lot of processes. So I guess this Let's just go into what you're not sorry for, because I know it plays into the public speaking side. So, Brennan, can you tell the world what you're not sorry for?
[00:01:43] spk_0: Yeah, absolutely. I'm not sorry for playing bigger every day, and I think that's that's the message I want people to take away from. All of this is that we play too small in life, you know, we want toe get that 9 to 5 job, and then that's it. And then we don't want to push for Mawr or we don't wanna push for what society doesn't want us to dio. But rather than push for what we want to do, which I think should be the focal point of anyone's life,
[00:02:06] spk_1: so what life experiences Got you Thio here to be like I've been or possibly you might have been playing small growing up some way that you're just like I've got Thio Got to do more.
[00:02:20] spk_0: Yeah, for sure. So So I grew up in very modest beginnings. You know, my my mother worked at a factory. My dad was a hat manager at a company, so they both pretty much worked minimum wage. I didn't have, you know, the things that I always wanted to get in life. You know what? It was like a two chocolate bars or something. I never I never got it. Ever understood why, either? Until I grew up a little more. So basically the focus of my life was how do I get out of poverty? And I think whenever we start our journey, we should always be focused on what the next thing is, rather than just saying, Oh, we should, like, start a YouTube channel or something crazy like that. And then as kind of life went by for May, you know, I grew up in a French education system, so I struggled a lot with presentations because I didn't know the language and all of those things kind of crumpled up together. And so I said when I joined business school, I didn't know a single person in business had no idea what what a company was that I saw in my oversized suit from prom. That's right. So I was pretty clueless. But, you know, over time, you know, learning from mentors and shows like this. You know, I just learned how to how toe get ahead and how to get smart and how Thio train myself to develop myself in a way that most people my age usually don't do. I started listening to podcast when I was 17 and I was listening to podcast two hours a day ever since, and it's gotten me far. And then after that, you know, I focused on getting the accounting job. Then, after I focused on getting the consulting job and then after I got out of poverty, the new question Waas, what do I do? Mawr? Is that all I'm going to do with my life? And then mass truck came into play and I was able to make a bigger impact in the world is all
[00:03:51] spk_1: I love that and the thing that I hear about this is habits that what you have done was not created over one day it waas a combination of one again. I would say you are one of the most emotionally intelligent person to be able Thio self reflect the way that you do, but also the ability to see that you know, it takes time and it's gonna take growth, and I have to put in some work. So what are some of the habits that you would say that you have consistently done to play bigger?
[00:04:26] spk_0: Yeah, And I love this question because I'm gonna answer something that most people don't. You know, I always find it funny when people say things like yoga or meditation or eating yogurt in the morning I go. That's not the point. Those things are important and all that stuff. But the one habit that nobody does that people need to do more of is asked themselves, Ah, hard question every day. If you don't do that, you'll never find your own perspective. So one homework I have for people that I guarantee most people won't do is to write your own funeral speech, because if you do that, you're going to go through life in reverse and you're going to say Okay, well, I have this many years toe live, and that way I can backtrack and figure out what I want to dio. And by ask yourself a very difficult question every day. Like, what are some of the controversial things you believe in that most people don't over time. What starts to happen is you start to develop a unique identity and a unique set of values that nobody else has. And then you start to develop your own point of view of how the world should be, and then you push towards that point of view.
[00:05:27] spk_1: The thing I hear in that that I love is that you shape your life by your choices where 90 plus percent of people I believe shape their environment, shapes them. So how did you do that? Like what? Is it just natural? Or do you just feel it was their again? Just something that sparked it that got you to this?
[00:05:55] spk_0: Yeah, for sure. I think the first thing that I did was I rinsed out a lot of the people that I knew. So what that means is most people. If you think most human beings in life right now, there's around maybe at least 10% of their friends would, or 10% of people they talked or generally negative, if not Mauritz. Probably more than 10% of being honest. But you know, it's around 10%. So a way to figure out who you should actually have in your life, rather than the people are just attract to the image of you is by communicating the weird things that you dio on a daily basis to everyone around you. That isn't illegal, obviously. And by doing that, what ends up happening? And I always said the example right. You know, I can I can sing in eight different languages. I dance alone in my basement an hour a day. Absolutely love Justin Bieber. I don't know why people hated him so much were all of these odd things. But what happened when I did this at a very young age? I probably started doing that when I was 16 or 17. 10% of the people I hung I hung out with would say the following. Oh, I don't really care what you're into. Just be happy, man. Like you would write if I told you all this, which I'm sure, is that the reaction? But the other 90% was surprised. May was they would say things like weight, actually. Do you Wait? That's not true, right? Do you actually listen to that? Isn't that you know that? Actually, that party on Friday, I don't come. Right? So what? What happens is it's very painful in the short term. But you figure out who your real friends are and who actually likes you. And then after that, once you have five or six people who just like you for who you are, then you just do whatever the hell you want. So I think I think that's a good way for people to navigate.
[00:07:29] spk_1: I love that. That makes me think of. I did a class other day with a group of people, and one thing I challenged them is your values. How are you basing your values? What are they based off? Are they based off your circumstances And then you're severe of influence and its impact. And I always say the joke if you're around nine broke people, you're about to be the 10th one, for what they said is, What if you're around? Not amazing people. Could you be the 10th one and really having that look about your severe of influence and how they could be owning your story whenever it's yours? So I admire your ability to do that at such a young age as well. Because again, I believe that's unique in all the people that I speak with, there's not many people. So again, this is the reason why I'm just fascinated with you and your psychology and how you work. So tell me how doing that now has led to your future success and the success that you've seen not only in your work life but also in your your public speaking life.