So I got something a little bit different for you this week. I recently was a guest on the Defender's Live Show with Laura Thorson to talk about the importance of self-reliance and how to become less dependent on the systems that so many have become accustomed to taking for granted. Well, the conversation took a few turns along the way as I'm sure you've come to known that I'm prone to do from time to time. I really enjoyed the show. And this week, I would love to share this interview with you on the topic of building self-reliance in your life.