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Hello and welcome to Safety FM Episode 100 Boy Oh boy, did I never think we're going to make it this far, But thanks to you, the listener, we have made it this far down the path. Now, today we have a lot of excitement going on here at the Station of Safety FM. Today we have a conversation with the safety Justice League.  Now you might be asking herself Who exactly is the safety Justice League consist of the following Abby Ferry, Jason Lucas, Jason Maldonado, Nathan Bremen in Joe Pina. So today we get to have an interview with them here on safety FM. But before we get to that, we've been talking about for weeks now that something would be happening here today, January the 14th of 2020 on the safety FM flagship show. Now, I'll tell you, this has been a great journey for me. So far, we have made it two episode 100.  You the listener, have made this station Maura Maura, popular than what my dreams ever could have imagined that they will become so As you have noticed, we have had a lot of safety professionals come onto our show here called Safety FM. We've been able to do a lot of interactions. A lot of conversations, I want to say back on Episode 17 I believe it was when we had Scott Giller come on for the first time. And ever since then Episode 17 in particular, I feel like the show has taken off and went into this place that I never imagined that it was going to go.  We kind of still had a lot of people come on, a lot of build up a lot of influence or industry leaders come onto the show, and it was quite exciting for me. The great thing about it was that I got to partner up with a lot of different safety professionals that also had podcast, some of them different from what I was doing. And I looked at it and I said, Hey, maybe maybe we should be able to bring them on in us kind of do somethings together, And that's really how some of the station started really being built up.  I had started Safety FM, the show and the radio station, not knowing that it was going to continue to grow to the format that it started to grow into. Now I want to say we have somewhere close to, I believe 15 shows all together on Safety FM at one way, shape or form that have been on their left. So wine new shows come on. Last week alone, we signed CM Goodman with The Hot Nerd, which is a new show in two days. We have another show's starting the essential leadership cycle podcast with Rob Fisher.  But what I have noticed with this going on that we're bringing on new shows in New things on to Safety FM, it has caused a lot of confusion. And what do I mean? So it becomes this. It becomes his safety FM, a show or safety FM radio station. So I caused some of the market confusion by bringing people on and still having it under the same name. Well, I always knew that at least minimally, I wanted to get toe episode 100 of Safety FM, the flagship show. So as of today, after this episode, the Safety FM flagship show will be no more.  I want to stop the market confusion, and I want people to know that Safety FM is a radio station or a podcast network. It has multiple shows on them now. I love the different people that we have on our network bite. I want to make sure that we understand right away that I'm not going anywhere. We will re brand this show from Safety FM or, as we call it, the flagship show to the Jay Allen show. Now I'm going to tell you, Safety FM, the show, the flagship show has been excellent on what I've wanted to accomplish to this point.  But going forward, I'm gonna do some changes and let me explain the show going forward here. We're going to be setting it up directly as we have it on the radio station. So the J. Allen show will be the radio station show, and we'll bring it over to the podcast format. Now here's the deal with the J. Allen Joe. We're still going to talk about safety that is the bread and butter of everything that we d'oh. But I've also noticed that by calling the show safety FM, it has put some limits on some of the people that would have been able to bring on.  So going forward, we will still do almost everything related to safety. But from time to time, we will have people come on that are different industries in things that I find interesting that I think you as my friend, would enjoy as well. There's some influencers that are out there that we've reached out to we've interacted with, but they won't come on because it's called Safety FM, even though it's a flagship show. So going forward, we'll do some changes there, and that's perfectly fine. I still want us to have the conversations that you and I have every so frequently the other thing that you'll notice right away.  There will be a change on the time of when the episode comes out. The episodes normally have been coming out at three o'clock in the morning, Eastern time or midnight in the West Coast on Tuesdays and Fridays. Well going forward. They'll still come out on Tuesdays and Fridays, but they're gonna come out a little bit later in the day from what I'm being told should be around noontime. We might work on that a little bit just to figure that out. But I wanted to let you know this is the change is coming forward.  So there was a lot of reference that my future would be my past and some point before in my younger career, I did have a show called the J. Allen Show. So that's why the future my future is my past or my past will be my future, how everyone awarded. But I appreciate 20 million down votes in streams that we've had to this point. I could have never made it to this point without you. Keep in mind that we're not going anywhere. If you're listening to us on the podcast format, it will still be the same R s s feed.  You'll still find us in the same places that we were at before but now will be titled the J. Allen Show on Safety of Them. 

So I don't want to take away from the safety Justice League that we have for the interview for today. So I appreciate you being a listener of safety FM, but going forward, it will be known as the J. Allen show. Enjoy the Safety Justice League here today on Safety FM/The Jay Allen show 

 Well, I wanna welcome the safety Justice Lee to the show here today, so let's not waste too much time.  Let's get started with what people want to know. Who came up with the idea for this, and how did it all get started? Kind of ah, spoof on the original idea of basic dude stuff that was being shown on linked in. But to switch it up and do it as basic safety stuff. And then we were going thio just kind of like, have somebody I think Jason Mountain auto even filmed a video of him in a harness saying harness lanyard, dearing basic safety stuff. So we brought that in tow into the idea, and I took that thio Jason and Abby and Abby was like, You know, there's a lot of B s and safety already.  Maybe we don't wanna have a b s s as a hashtag said, You're you're 100% correct and she goes. But what if we put together a kind of an ask a safety pro collaboration like, we'll answer a question and each one of us will answer it, and we'll do a collaboration video that way. And she immediately had, like, three question ideas. And I said, You know what? That's a That's a great idea. So then we started looking at who is creating great content on linked in right now and then we did a name bite of all of them that, you see, he has the safety five to originally come together and try to determine, try to put together a good safety collaboration videos and answer good questions.  And that's kind of how it came about. So as this comes about, did you feel that this was your direct competition and anyone could take the take the question and answer it because I just kind of find it interesting. I know that you want to share the message, but there's always some competition involved in it. I think for me, I don't ever feel like it was a competition, but what was? I didn't know it was gonna come out of it. But the learning that I get because we don't collaborate on the answers, we just come out of the question.  And then we all answer him independently, and then Jason puts them together, and that was unexpectedly incredible to me because there's were similar. But we're not. And really we get a lot of really great learning and knowledge just from these other awesome professionals. So that's been cool for me. I haven't felt like it was a competition. We can fight the problem process go, though, so let's say, for instance, I decide that I have this one topic that I would like to discuss. How does it go? Is it an email chain?  How does it work out that you get the line of information in What is the timeline in regards of from one starts that actually gets moving, we use the PM's used. Yeah, on there's an open diem group thread with all of us on lengthen. And so it's pretty open like a ce faras the competition aspect. There really isn't competition, and we try to keep it collaborative, where it's like, Hey, what do you want to talk about this week and who wants to post it? But always Jason Lucas is the man with the editing, so we rely on that part big time, but the rest of it is is pretty open a CZ. You look at this and you're moving forward with it as you are becoming Maur more popular on linked in Oran social media.  However you want awarded, you guys were already pretty popular, as is. How are you looking this as it changes moving forward and Nathan is the only one that has an answer so far to go ahead, mate. Yeah, well, I'd like to reiterate what Abby and Jason M. Said. It's definitely not a cop. I don't feel competitive at all. In fact, I go out of my way to support these guys, and I'm happy to do it, and I feel very supportive in return. So I think it is definitely collaborative and it helps us all out.  You know, as far as how it's, you know, going forward I have. I did notice a jump in my numbers. I don't really I don't really worry too much about that stuff, but the collaboration getting involved in what they posts and sharing each other's posts and supporting each other. You know, I think it's it's all sunshine from here on out. I think I think it's just, uh, way have good stuff on the horizon. So are you. So when you say good stuff on the horizon, you know being a journalist can to stop right there again, what does that mean?  So what do you what you looking on doing? Or is there going to be some longer content stuff coming out from the safety five? Well, we're gonna sell leggings with ladders on him. You know, there's a market for everything. Sometimes that personally, I'm a bit in a train. 40 situation myself. I've been typically, you know, I'm a corporate safety manager. And I just started getting on linked in and I thought, I'll just see what I could do on Lincoln had a switching from being a consumer to a producer.  And that all started. Really? When I started talking with safe a p dot com Um, no, they encouraged me to Hey, why don't you try doing a video? And I was the type of person that was like, uh, you know, I don't kind of scared me to be honest with you, and I thought, Well, if it scares me, I should probably probably be doing it. So I kind of let that fear guide me if there's something kind of scares me a little bit, that that means I should be doing it right.  And so then you know that I guess that got the attention of Abby and Jason, and then they reached out to me and and I was happy to jump in. But I'm kind of going from a transition from being a corporate safety manager to trying to get out of that corporate setting into more being an influencer on. And part of that is just my own personal situation is that we're gonna be moving out of the country, and I need to find something I could do. I want, like, my wife's getting a job in another country out.  I won't have a work visa, so I need something I can do online. And so I thought, Well, here's a Here's a good opportunity for me to try to get something going online. And so it was just good fortune that I ran into these guys. So could we ask the country that you're going to Yeah, yeah, looking that Spain Very nice. So you're gonna have to learn another language too, at the same time. Yeah, well, I do know some Spanish, actually. My wife is from Chile, and, uh um, I've been to Santiago, Chile.  I was married there, So I have learned some spanish, but I'll have to get, you know, she just bought that rust for sure. So, Jason is balder nado as used a CZ. You see this and it's moving forward, and I know you being an author, and I I I actually took a deep dive and into listening to the accidental safety pro that you were on and the interview that was done. And you talked about that. You want to be an actor? One point and some different things.  Have you seen sales on the book increase ever since you started collaborating with the other people I've seen? Answer that. I mean, I I could probably bugged my editor at secrecy and ask her every day. What? The numbers are gorgeous, but I don't. She's great. And I don't wanna I want to keep that relationship solid. But what I've seen is and I think this is probably the coolest part because this was my goal in doing this was that people are reaching out more and just asking, you know, Hey, I saw your video.  I saw I saw the, you know, the safety. Five. The safety, justice, legal, That stuff. Uh, you know, what would you do in this situation? Or even just simple things? Like you really helped me out? Um, you helped me see a new perspective. I mean, those were just really rewarding things. And and I think back to answer your question J about the future. You know, we've, uh this is sort of a budding friendship, and it's one that I'm really thankful for it, and we've talked about all kinds of possibilities.  You no longer content different styles, putting up a YouTube channel which were working on it's actually up. And, you know, I think we just grow this organically and see where it goes with. So far, it's been incredible. So as you look at this, do you think that they're in the future? There might be, ah, conference or somewhere where people can go and listen to all five. You speak? I mean, I know right now the SSP is kind of limited to two speakers at their bigger event if they were on stage together.  But are you looking at potentially or is that we're doing potentially all five at a time? Being up there and being able to interact with the audience? That's a great idea. It hasn't come up so it now it's on the list, and I think some of this, too, is part of a social media experiment that Jason Lucas and I are working on because we are presenting together at the SSP Safety 2020 in Orlando next year. So we're talking about using Social Media Thio influence as far as getting a safety message out, whether it's within your own company or in the greater social media landscape.  So, honestly, I feel like a lot of this is just we didn't have premeditated, you know, visions off. Let's be big social media stars. It's like, No, let's just collaborate on this and see what happens. And then it's fun and you guys are cool and I have loved getting different perspectives, so we just keep going and see what happens. So if I was going to go ahead and see how the link started, who contacted who first and work, how did it all kind of group up? So how did the band start?  Jason started it. That okay, I was gonna say you just talked. Spoke Thio. Jason Lucas, Where Who did you contact first? It was the first person you went after. Actually, I was already communicating with Abby for the for the upcoming SSP speaking event. And then I started getting more and more connected with with the other Jason, and he was the one that brought Nathan Thio to the to the forefront. Like you really need to check this guy's stuff out. It's under Red Beard, you know. He's putting out some really good stuff.  And so I started following him and getting more involved in his stuff. And we all know that, Joe, she's just a rock star. So she was, you know, top of the top of the line and them. So when I started thinking about who do I really enjoy watching their stuff? And I was like, those of the people I want to collaborate with And it was these four. And so that was the reason I sent the original the original. It started as the Ask a safety pro group in Lincoln.  And it's now, since transition to safety. Justice Lee. So they call me Superman because I'm the one that brought it all together. I'm battery, humble like, so as you're as you're moving forward with this, So you're serious? Is this what you're gonna branded within the safety Justice League? Yeah, I think. I mean, with were border lining on sound and really, uh, pompous. And and that's not that's not the intent. It actually came from a really cool comment that we got on our first or second video. Um, and I can't remember who did it. Jason.  It was one that you posted on the CME threat, but a it was me. She doesn't awesome content as well, and he had posted on there. You guys will have great content individually. But you're like the Justice League of Safety when you come together. And so I changed. Rgm threat Thio hashtag safety Justice League. Very nice. So who was the first person that said, OK, let me tag the other people in the group because then you're seeing Maura Maura post with you guys tagging each other. So who came up with that brain child?  Because I thought it was a genius idea. Especially now you're you're expanding your audience as you're doing it right. I think that the idea I've been tagging safety professionals in my posts for quite a while. But when we started talking about and collaborating on on the first video, the idea was one. We wanted to make sure that everybody got everybody that's involved, got tagged in it to the hashtags that are specific to us, got put in there as well, and that everybody on the team shared the video on their own feed as well, with their own spin on it like not everybody's gonna post music lyrics before they post their ask a safety pro.  When it's their turn, Abby's probably going to say, Let's talk eso There's everybody has their own little niche, but that's why we wanted everybody individually post these videos. So it wasn't the same person posting them every time each person in the group is gonna post them dependent on when The last time they post one was and then the rest of the shares right now is you speak when you envision near perfect target audience. Who is that person? When I'm doing these, I'm often thinking about the people that were just like me.  So not like me in every way, but people that are on their own and don't have other people in their safety department, so we can be kind of like their safety department or their co workers or colleagues virtually. And I think that's a big challenge is that it is such a diverse audience because you get a lot of chefs in the kitchen when it comes to safety. I'm sure we've all experienced that within our own organization. You know, everyone has an opinion on safety, and they're all different.  Um, but especially on Link Dennis, Very diapers. I mean, even within a single company, you have your senior executives, you have the board, you know, you have the front line employees, you have the middle managers. And so I ran into this very problem. Um, you know, I struggle with it, to be honest with you as faras who's my audience today or whatever, and you kind of have to isolate out a nature cohort and target that person for that day for that message. I just recently finished a webinar and my question for the people who are producing the weapon, I said, I said, Well, who's my audience?  You know, And they just said, It's like 400 people, like I just in general, you know, probably more safety people. But it could be anybody. So you know. So I threw a little bit for everybody, you know, some some some people are gonna be just, you know, middle manager safety safety managers. But they're gonna be in all different types of, uh, you know, every different types of place in the evolution of their safety culture and their safety program. You know, I met one person who is on a fast growing company, and they've never had a safety program before, so, you know.  So I tried. I tryto reach across the gambit and provide information that can help people a difference at every different stage. No, my experience is mainly working as a corporate safety manager for a company that's 23,000 people. Um, and so you know, I can't just speak to that audience all the time. So, you know, there's definitely a diverse audience, and sometimes I struggle with identifying who I'm talking to. Uber. You reference quite a bit the theatrical different companies or the company and the different people that are there so referencing company for a moment.  Here's my curiosity question. Are you getting a lot of pushback from your organizations because you're becoming so popular on social media? I'm not. I don't think anyone has really picked up on it. I mean, not that I know off and and I don't know, I haven't personally same here. I don't think anyone even pays attention. I think I think we have our safety friends. You know, they're out there in our social network that are paying attention to this stuff. And there's some people that I've noticed are definitely like they're super fans of the videos that we post and they really like to jump in and get engaged in the comments.  So you answer the question about my company I'm working for. I honestly don't think it's even on people's radar, but I want to add something about the audience thing is that it changes every time. Like I don't think we have an intended audience with each post. But what happens in the conversation starts to drive the audience for those particular post. So I had a post this week about bathrooms like Job ST Bathrooms and got a bunch of engagement from people overseas. There was a post a couple weeks ago where a bunch of people from Australia over China, and so you just never know what you're going to get, and that's and that's actually another big part of what we want to do as a group is, is Theat chul engagement aspect.  None of us are gonna post a video and not engage. And it's awesome because, like whoever posted this week that week, you'll see the rest of us responding to comments or questions on that post because it's important that engagement aspect is really, really vital. So I don't want to chime in on the feedback and company issue, so I have gotten a little bit good and bad. But I have noticed in any time that I I say something that's maybe a little bit not per policy. They get a few eyebrows raised.  The good side, though, is that people understand that the message is what's important and not that any one of us has ever, always right. But we're having those conversations, and we're getting people talking about issues that they don't usually talk about. And I think that's a really big key, at least for me now. Has anyone noticed yet that there is will, say, another group that has started mimicking what you guys were doing? So there is a really serious thing I have it just started. I want to say it was earlier in the week.  They it was, Go ahead and you can ask they're professionals but they were trying to tie it in Maur into their company, but they were making some big post online about it, so I didn't know if you guys have already noticed that you have that you already disrupted the market that some other people are being inspired by. That's Austan flat. As long as they go that marvelous, that's where d c so way. Want to look at box office. Wait. Never mind. I wanted to go back to the popularity thing because J. You mentioned that word and it's a funny word doing it.  But I feel that what? How other? Maybe copycat or inspired by groups, how maybe they could go wrong in this is the engagement piece. So no matter how popular other people might perceive us to be on the on LinkedIn or other social media platforms are how popular we might think we are. None of us are above jumping in and responding to every single comment that comes in our posts. And I think that's where the organic reach and just the people that I've been exposed to and then now have other side direct message conversations are really good stuff, has really increased with all these posts.  So I think that's still that organic engagement is key and that if someone was trying Thio, you know, a copycat or be inspired by what we d'oh, we do so many little things that add up to what makes it successful and makes it come across people. Social media feeds with this being people being able to get direct access to you too. Have you had any one? You already reach out to you and say, Hey, could you make a video surrounding ex subject matter? I personally haven't. But I do feel that with these videos, people feel like they almost know you and that they can reach out and like, start conversations that would usually start five conversations.  And after being introduced to somebody, so they jump in like, Hey, we're buddies, We're friends, we're colleagues And that could be good. That's something you're you're you're putting yourself in a very interesting place because you have to keep in mind that of this. These people are seeing you on a weekly basis on some of the videos and then some of Martian. You based on the post that you're doing that it could also be in video content. So it's automatically it's my friend that does exits based out of here.  So they think that they have this direct relationship with you. So that's why they feel so comfortable reaching out in having these conversations. Yeah, so that's something. It has to be very weird, especially when you go somewhere where you don't know experts in and they come up to you like you're best friends. I've had a couple experiences that on just a personal level, you know, you were asking about, like, how we had the idea to start taking each other and to get a bigger network. I think it's more of a you know, you just try toe, try different things and see what sticks right.  And our passion is to get the message out or passion is to support people, to try to bring awareness to these issues, that we feel very important and underserved in the safety community. And then, you know, in general businesses overall and you know, I've had some surprising times where I've commented on a Saturday and I got less engagement on a Saturday and I thought, OK, the weekend's probably are quite people are checking Lincoln. And then I posted another one end up with 20,000 views in a couple days and on a Saturday, you know, And um, yeah, it's it's very It's very interesting.  I had one experience where I had a somebody called me and they said, Hey, get you'll never believe what happened. I was talking to a client, Wisconsin, make their cheese maker and they said, I'm following this guy named Red Beard on Lincoln, you know? So I've had a little bit of people, you know, knowing who I am. I hearing about things like that, but not in person hasn't happened yet anyway. Yeah, I haven't had in person either. Even with the with the beard, it hasn't happened early in shit.  That's the thing is with the red beard. When I was thinking, I read a book called Invisible Influence and it really made a big impact on me because I found found out that you know the number of times somebody sees you, the more attracted there, too you like or the more times you see a product, the more attracted you are to that product. That's just the way the human brain works. Its familiarity equals influence. And so I thought, All right, well, I'm gonna be frequent on lengthen because I think that's important.  And I'm gonna engage people exciting. That's important. And then I thought, Well, what can I do that to make to make you know, That kind of makes me stand out. O r can make people remember, remember better. So that it takes less impressions, too. You know, for someone to be more under my guest, a guest to improve my influence that way. And that's why I went with a red beard thing. Um, so but yeah. And it only took him who he is, and yeah, yeah, she last night actually help.  Um, hell of a five o'clock shadow I actually had. But, uh, I had a talk about weird instances, J I mean, like, to Abby's point. We all do a lot on the sidelines, too, you know, record voice messages to new contacts and just reach out to people engage in their comments. But, um, I was actually took a day off couple weeks ago and saw sleeping, and I was, like, 9 30 in the morning. And my phone ring And it wasn't a number I recognize. And I got on this on this call, and I'm groggy.  And this guy was Hey, man, what's up? It's John. Know which high? And it was somebody that had found me and somehow found my phone number online and and wanted to tell me a safety story because one of because of one of the Ascot safety pro video. So really, really weird, But really, Yeah, rewarding for sure. I mean, he actually, you know, I chatted a little bit, you know, just small talk. And then he got into this story that had just really affected him about a coworker that have been injured.  And, you know, we were able to kind of connect on that level. I mean, it was it was strange, but it was a really good experience. Are you sure he wasn't given May? Maybe I'm not about that. So where do you see this going next? Of course. You know, we're coming to the end of the decade. People are gonna make make reference to this. So as you're moving forward, where do you see your next steps? Well, what are you trying to do? I know that has been organic to this point, but you're gonna have to give it some direction.  So what's the next? What's the next phase? Well, how does a safety Justice League podcast sound J? I will tell you that there has been conversations with multiple people that are on this particular chat at the moment that we've had discussions about podcasts and they've come up with different ideas. I have been open to this network to you guys to come on. So whatever you would not do, yeah, yeah, good, yeah, I think you know, our voice content in a podcast format would be really awesome. I still think that there's value in the video format.  I think you know, I'm a big Gary Vader boner, Chuck, and I mean, I don't I don't make any secrets about that. I love Gary Beef, so I'm I love any way that we can get safety messages out to people. And I think I don't think that there's a point of over saturation, really, because not everyone's digesting everything and hanging on to every word, but they might pick up a podcast here and there, or watch a video or comment on something here and there. So as Faras where the future goes, I really think it's important.  Thio, as we've already established our own identity and character. And I feel that that at some point there will be some value in that, especially as online training, virtual deliveries of training gets more widely used. Thio. Not just like the big companies that can afford big training budgets, but smaller companies to, And I think that's where the impact will be. So I feel that our group is positioning ourselves as hey, we're safety professionals. We identify like this. We have something to say and I do think that at some point that that could be worth something.  Yeah, we've had that conversation between the five of us and it's something I think we're really interested in again. I think the motivation for this thing was pretty pure. You know, nobody came in saying we want to be famous and be the most popular safety professionals. But I think just we're all at a point in our careers and we're all you know about the same age roughly, and you know, it's time for us to talk about our experiences and give back to the people that there may be struggling that have been where that are where we have been.  And, uh so we're ready for that. But the podcast idea is something that was pretty enticing to all of us. I think. Well, I think that there there is a market for your voice in regards of getting the information out there. And you guys do it in such a unique format that I think that it should be something that if you are considering, let's really have a serious conversation about it and see what we can do to move forward. Love to have you on the platform if you're interested in doing self.  Or at least I would love to be able to do some assistance. I'm in regards of panic, giving you direction on what needs to be done. If you're interested in doing that, this doesn't have to even be part of the show. You just be a totally side conversation. Well, that sounds good to me. And, you know, I just kind of work here. They call me the flash of the team, and so I'll just do whatever Superman and Batman tell me to D'oh. So where does that leave Abby?  In jail. What are they want todo about this right here. Like wonder Woman are like, What a meeting here, E. I don't know what is a back girl Wonder woman who? What's there? Somebody. But there's their school ones too. There's like the black canary. You know, I'm bringing out too much of me and Bernard. Others get out. But is that woman still a villain? I mean, you look at it that Jason was like the mighty Catwoman. Yes, a question real quick, Woody. Who is there anything that you guys would like to share with the audience that they might not know about you?  That might be a point of interest for you to bring up that could put, you know, put some shame on you at the same time. Yeah, I think there's a couple things I want the audience to. No one. We don't work together. A lot of people miss misunderstand and think that that we did this because we all work for the same company. But we none of us work for the same company. The other thing is, this is like actually the first time all of us have spoken together.  Uh, normally, it's all done through through the lengthy in groups, so you can get a lot accomplished without having to work with one another. But the other thing is, is that you know, collaborations work. It's important to toe bring together great minds because, like Jason and they were saying in the beginning, this is opened my eyes up to a whole lot of different ideas because we're all speaking on the same question, but it nothing's drafted. It's not like I'm gonna talk about this because someone So I was talking about this, and so once I was talking about this, it's like, Here's the question.  Let's try to keep it short, which is always the hardest part, so that when the, you know edited video comes together, it's not eight minutes long. Uh, let's try to keep a short and sink, and then my I think I think I want that the audience to know about us if we formed a really unique, really cool friendship, and we don't just talk safe to you, we just get on there and we joke around. We send Mihm's and gifts to each other. And you know, it's a lot of joking around and having fun and just kind of having a resource.  And I think that's, uh, many times in my career. That's something that I've been missing is you know, I can talk to my family and my friends, but they're not safety people. They don't necessarily get it the way these guys do and is. This has just been a really great outlet. I think for all of us, Thio just kind of let some steam off, have some fun, joke with people that think like us and just really develop a good friendship. So I think that's why, uh, why it comes across genuine and interesting.  I think that's a lot of it. And also, you know, I would be remiss if I didn't point this out, that I would encourage people to communicate with us. If they have questions, it's called Ask a Safety Pro for a reason. You ask us questions. So anybody here is this. Reach out to us, and if it's an answer, if you need an answer that I can't necessarily provide Aiken refried Thio. You know, one of the Jason's AB your Joe on DSO. You know, it's something maybe we could do better is to encourage our our listeners to ask us more questions.  I think communication and learning is really what we're all here about. It's what it's all about, so definitely don't hesitate to reach out to us. I think all of us are very approachable. I love it when I get GM from people about random things, like I love answering questions and I'll do everything I can to help you out if I can. Abby, that leaves you. Um, I like the comment or the invitation for people to ask us stuff and make it more interactive. But I also do realize that a lot of safety people, they're very serious about their job and don't quite understand some of the fun that we might be putting out there and having Onda also that a lot of people are comfortable putting out content.  So I think that's why our group really shines through is that we're putting stuff out there proactively, and I think a lot of safety professionals they do just want Thio digest it, and it gives them something else to think about, and I know when I was a practitioner working for a construction company day in and day out. Stuff is serious and there's a lot going on and you don't really get a lot of times come up for Air. And Lincoln wasn't really around much back then. So I feel like Lincoln now with our social interactions that gives safety professionals kind of like you said that outlet where they can find some fun, find some different perspectives and they're not thinking about you know, the 10 claims they had in the past month and having to be so serious and on all the time.  Well, if people want to get more information about all five of you, where can they go? Yeah, yeah, Linked in way actually have a safety Justice League at gmail dot com email account that people could reach out to us on O. R. Like Jason said in anybody individually, it will. We're all connected pretty much daily so they'll find out, and the YouTube channel has the archive of our videos as well. Well, I really do appreciate you, all of you taking the time today and actually spending some time with us here on safety Actually, we're happy to do it.  Thanks, Jay. 

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