I'm sure we've all heard the saying, "You have to risk it to get the biscuit." It's a popular quote for a reason—it rings true. To be successful in life, you can't be afraid to take risks. You have to be willing to put yourself out there and aspire to fail. Sounds counterintuitive, right? But it's not. When you're constantly pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone, you're opening yourself up to new opportunities and learning experiences. And that's what leads to success. In this episode of the Thriving in Complexity podcast, Susanne talks with Stan Gallo, who is a partner with the Forensic Services team at BDO in Brisbane and has over 30 years of experience in law enforcement and professional services. Stan shares his insights on the value of taking risks, and how this can lead to individual and organisational success. He also discusses the importance of being open-minded and curious, and how these qualities have helped him in his career.  So if you're looking for some inspiration to take more risks in your life, or you're simply curious about Stan's interesting life, this episode is for you!