“The key thing for me is, everything is personal. It's never not personal. Understand that an individual has different motivations, different stressors in their life." In this episode of Leadership Lessons for Challenging Times, Alun Baker, Chief Executive of Clario Tech, a consumer-focused cybersecurity company, talks with Xquadrant's Founder Richard Medcalf. Alun is a visionary and growth-driving CEO and Chairman. He's passionate about rapidly growing or restructuring B2C and B2B technology-based companies and preparing them for M&A, fund raising and exit. He also has extensive Non-Exec Director experience, with four companies he's chaired making the Sunday Times Fast-track growth list.