Green Tea Conversations
Optimizing the Energy of Your Space with Annette Rugolo
July 12, 2020
Meet Annette Rugolo, an environmental healing consultant, global teacher, speaker, and author of the book Soul Whisperer: Releasing Lost Souls as she talks about the energy of places, dowsing, space clearing, and more. Rugolo discusses using dowsing rods to find lower vibrational energies, keeping them confined, and curing negative vortices. Learn how a shift in energy can bring about a shift in the mindset of the persons residing or frequenting the place. For more information and to book an appointment, visit

[00:00:07.380] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Good morning and welcome to Green Tea Conversations, the radio show that delves into the pages of Natural Awakenings magazine to bring you the local professionals who share their progressive ideas in the latest information and insights needed so you can lead your best life. I'm your host, Candi Broeffle. And today in our virtual studio, we have with us, Annette Rugolo. And welcome back to the show. Annette, it's so good to see you again.
[00:00:34.260] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Thank you, Candi. Good to see you too, virtually.
[00:00:38.520] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Virtually, Yes. This is a new thing for us. 
[00:00:40.910] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
It is. 
[00:00:42.210] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So, you know, it has been four months since we've been on the radio; since I've recorded a show. And we have been just itching to get back into the studios and to do something. But we've also had to kind of be careful with what with everything that is happening as far as health issues and that type of thing. So, as I've talked about a few times on the show, my husband and I have an adult foster care home and we take care of three elderly and kind of vulnerable adults who live in our home. And so, it has been important for us to really do the best that we can with our self quarantining and trying to make sure that everybody is safe. So, unfortunately, I haven't been able to get into the studio, but I am happy to be able to come to you virtually and to be with you virtually today. We usually do this in the studio and we get to sit across the table from each other. So, today we are actually in our own homes having this conversation. So good to have you with me, though. Thank you so much for being here. And I'm excited because, well before I begin, I want to let people know that Annette is an environmental healing consultant, global teacher, and speaker. And you've also written a book called Soul Whisperer: Releasing Lost Souls. And we have talked about the book a few times and talked about the work that you do. But during this time that we're in right now with COVID-19 and then the social unrest that is happening, you have developed a new class and I want to get this right. The name of the class is 'Energetic Support for Children and Grandchildren'.

[00:02:28.530] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
[00:02:29.280] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And so this is for adults who really want to help support children who are trying to navigate this kind of difficult time.
[00:02:37.860] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
It is, but as a result, it will also help the parents and grandchildren, too, or the grandparents as well. So, it actually helps everybody.
[00:02:51.360] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So, let's get into that right now. So, why do you think it is important or what kind of called you up to do this work or to offer this class at this time?
[00:03:04.470] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
I've actually been working with children for a long time. So, the children, a lot of the children I work with are, I call them highly evolved children. They carry a high vibration on a soul level and they are looking to us for support for some help. And for me, it's helping people understand parents, grandparents who these kids are in their family and the best way to help them and support them. But they need us to see them beyond their personalities. And there are some wonderful tools that I've been working with for many years that help both the parents and the children.
[00:04:01.950] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So, what are some things that parents or grandparents might be noticing with their kids that would indicate to them that now would be a good time to really learn how to best support them?
[00:04:15.000] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
So, I've been talking to a lot of people over these last months. So what's happening for a lot of the kids is they're having bad dreams. So if they're waking up and it's like they're constantly having bad dreams, a lot of them are having emotional outbursts. It's like they're not, it's like their normal isn't normal. So, there's a lot of abnormal activity that starts happening. Could be loss of appetite, acting out, anger, grief, a lot of sadness, depression, all of that. Everything that's happening around us, these kids, if we're not helping them, I would say, filter this energy out, a lot of these kids are taking it on and they don't know what to do with this energy. So, we need to recognize that and begin supporting them.
[00:05:20.070] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And really right now, I mean, we've been going through a lot in the last four months. And as a nation and as a world, we've really been going through a lot, but especially with all of the shutting down of the schools and making sure everybody is at homeschooling, being with the family as much as we are. There are some things that are really happening with kids that are causing a lot more stress than they maybe would typically experience.
[00:05:51.780] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
And one of the things, too, and this is where the program I want to help the parents too. Because the children; they tend to be mirrors of us. So, whatever's going on in our energy, they're like little mirrors. And it's like, oh, you're unbalanced, you're in fear, you're worried, you're stressed. They take that on. Either take it on or mirror it back to you. So, this is a program also to help the parents. It's like the parents that are able to stay calm and steady and adapt through this energy. The kids are, they're holding the energy for the kids in their family. And the kids will respond in like. So, it's helping parents to understand how to energetically support their kids, by being in that place of balance, of calmness, of creating solutions that are going to help both them and their children.

[00:06:56.860] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And it's so often that we think as parents that we're kind of hiding our emotions or hiding our own stress from our kids and really being able to you know, we don't want them to have to take on a lot of the stress that adults have to take on. But we're really not very good at hiding it, are we?.
[00:07:14.950] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
And these kids pick up on this energy. They know there is just, I call it non-verbal communication. You try to hide it and it's there. It's there in your emotional body. It's there in your mental body. And they're picking up on it if you say anything or not, it's just there. They're picking up on it.
[00:07:37.690] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And now in these times, too, when kids are watching more TV or they're connecting more maybe online than they have before. And now with everything that's happening as well, with the social unrest, this is adding another layer to their lives that many of us never had to experience at that age.
[00:08:01.300] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Exactly. One of the things I believe and I help parents just trust and tap into is trusting that the souls of their children, we're all here for a reason right now. We all have chosen to be here during this time to either learn, to grow, to adapt, to help with moving this country, this energy forward. And it's like a lot of times when I talk to people, they just need some tools. And that's what I love to offer people. It's like, here's some tools. Here's how you can be supported, how you can support your family. So we've got to create these safe spaces in our homes, safe spaces for our children. The other thing I'm telling parents too right now is, especially in summer, this is a chance to get the kids outside of the computer, TV, all the technology and spend some time in nature. Nature right now is so healing and this will help. There's a couple of things that happen in nature. The energy, especially if you're running around with bare feet connected to the earth, there's a grounding energy, there's a cleansing that happens. So, the Earth actually takes on this energy and it releases. But it's a balancing energy, it's uplifting. And for those that are in feeling like they're stuck in their house, this is a good time to be out. Nature, still social distance, find some nice safe space to be and let the kids be in that nature that totally shifts energy for both the family and the kids.
[00:10:03.160] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And there's, we hear more about this too, just kind of in our general everyday lives about grounding, how important it is for us to be outside and to be grounding and also forest bathing. And so, it's a great time to get out in the forest. So forest bathing is really about cleansing that energy through our environment. 
[00:10:31.480] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Absolutely. It's such a perfect time. And it's sometimes especially with the family, it takes some planning. And then, you know, it's extra effort sometimes to do that, but it's so, so worth it. So, I've been really encouraging that for a lot of people I've talked to.
[00:10:50.020] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And so the name of the class, again, is called?
[00:10:54.280] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Energetic Support for Children and Grandchildren.
[00:10:57.520] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And it's being offered, you're starting the class on when?
[00:11:01.000] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
It's Monday, July 20th, and it's an evening class, seven o'clock Central Time. We meet for four weeks for about 90 minutes a week. And it's really going into providing the tools.
[00:11:17.620] - Candi Broeffle, Host
When we come back from the commercial now, we will get into a little bit more about what the class is about. But for people who want to learn more and to register for the class, they can go to and that's To read the online version of Natural Awakenings magazine, visit You can find a podcast of this show on on Apple and Google Podcasts, and anywhere you get your podcasts. You're listening to Green Tea Conversations on AM950, the Progressive Voice of Minnesota. And we will be right back.
[00:12:05.380] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Welcome back to Green Tea Conversations, where we delve into the pages of Natural Awakenings magazine and talk to the professionals who share their expertise on natural health with you. I'm your host, Candi Broeffle. And today we are talking with Annette Rugolo, who is an environmental healing consultant and author of the book Soul Whisperer: Releasing Lost Souls. So, just before we went to the break, Annette, we were talking about a new class that you are offering called the Energetic Support for Children and Grandchildren. And this was really a class that was brought forth because of the pretty difficult times that we're going through right now and how it's impacting children within our community. And you had kind of shared with me before that it was, you were hearing stories from other people basically about how it was impacting their kids.
[00:12:57.460] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Yes, I've been doing a lot of work with parents of young children that were really struggling. The parents were struggling. The kids are struggling. And I've taught this class before, probably about four years ago. And it's working with the tools that I have acquired, I've worked with since 2001. So, it just felt like it was time to bring this forward again, to really help the parents and the children as we continue to move through this. Part of it is we don't know when it's going to end. And I think that's the toughest part. That's like how do we move through this gracefully with greater ease? And it's still going to be difficult, but we need some tools when we have these kinds of experiences.
[00:13:55.450] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And so as a soon-to-be grandparent myself, what would be some of the tools or some of the things that I would learn by coming into the class?
[00:14:06.340] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
So, the first thing I teach both the parents and to help their children, it's something called the Tubes of Light Meditation. So, a lot of people that I work with, that I've taught classes. So, I've been working with quantum energy, light frequencies, colors. It's all the same color frequencies since 2001. So part of this Tubes of Light, there's a royal blue frequency, a color that we call in. And this is really important right now, because this, I describe it as a firewall, so you visualize it in and around you in your energy field and it filters out any negative energy. So, with all of the fear, the worry, the grief, the anger, all of this emotional energy that's being created collectively, we need to filter that energy out so we understand what is our energy and what is 'other' energy. And we need to, we can do the same thing for our children. So these kids are like, they're either energetic magnets or they're so permeable, they're taking on all of this energy. And a lot of times their reactions are responses to what's going on is it's not even their energy. It's this energy that they're picking up from people around them. And we need to protect them energetically. So, they're not taking on this energy. That's really important right now.
[00:15:52.450] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And so coming into the class, that is one of the first things that you're going to learn, is that something that you do on the first night of your class?
[00:16:02.220] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Yes. That's going to be the first time. Now, the other piece of it, and I feel this is really, really important. This is, it makes so much difference, is teaching parents how to connect in with their children on a soul level. So, our child has it's a personality. It's like we see them physically. Right? So, they have a personality, but they also have a soul, a spirit. So there is a way to connect in with them consciously on a soul level. And when parents learn how to do this, what happens for the children it's like, oh, my parents see me beyond my personality. They see my soul. And it's like sending them a lifeline. That's what it feels like for the child. It's like, oh, I'm supported energetically on a soul level. And what it does, it opens up, I call them pathways of communication, where the soul of the child can now communicate things to the parents beyond the personality. So, they can be one-year-old, two years old, three years old. Doesn't matter their age, they can, their soul begins to communicate. When I started doing this, my husband and I have nine grandchildren, so I've had lots of practice working with children and grandchildren. As soon as I started doing this for my grandchildren, I get dreams. I get messages. It's like. But it's not only the calls for help, it's communication beyond the personality. And this is what I want to bring parents into is opening up these energies so they can begin this communication beyond their two, three, five, six-year-old. And it changes everything.
[00:18:15.630] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Interesting, and so often I learned early on with the work that I do that one of the most important things with children is when they don't feel like they're being heard or that they don't feel like they're being understood, they're going to act out and they can't help but to do that because they need to know that you understand what it is that they're going through. And so this is in even deeper level because you're going into what their soul is looking to communicate with you.
[00:18:51.850] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Yes. And this kind of opens up things. So, one of the things, the other piece of that is like sometimes we can't communicate on a physical level with our child, we can't tell them what we need them to hear or what we want to communicate with them, but we can communicate with them on a soul level. And the soul always hears. And I've seen it change relationships between parents and children. The other piece of this, and this is what I love about this class, a lot of parents, a lot of people may have heard of Indigo children, Dolphin children, Crystal children. So that's the other piece I like bringing parents into with an understanding of who is what vibration, what energy, what light does your child carry on a spiritual level. One of these types of souls has, there's a quality and there are ways to support them. For instance, I have a couple of grandchildren that are.... so this is relatively...
[00:20:13.040] - Candi Broeffle, Host
I'm going to ask you to say that again, you have a couple of grandchildren that are?
[00:20:17.390] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
[00:20:18.410] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Oh, moon children, okay.
[00:20:20.690] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Yeah, so they're both, they came in the same year, they were born the same year. So these moon children...
[00:20:31.170] - Candi Broeffle, Host
I'm sorry, I'm going to have to, we're going to have to go into a break quickly. And when we come back, we'll continue to talk about that, Okay?
[00:20:39.700] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
[00:20:40.850] - Candi Broeffle, Host
 So, to learn more about what Annette does, go to or call 612-394-3736. We will be back in just a moment.
[00:21:05.530] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Welcome back to Green Tea Conversations, where we delve into the pages of Natural Awakenings Magazine and talk to the professionals who share their expertise on natural health with you. I'm your host, Candi Broeffle. And today we are talking with Annette Rugolo, an environmental healing consultant and author of the book Soul Whisperer: Releasing Lost Souls. Thank you for being with us today, Annette, and thank you for coming back with me as the first. You are like my guinea pig to come back on to the air and to do something in a very different way, which is, we are actually recording this via Zoom.
And so, as some of our listeners have probably understood by now, we've had a little bit of technical issues and that's kind of, I guess, just going to be what's going to happen at this time. So, we're just going to roll with it and see how it goes. It's always a little bit more of a struggle when we are doing things from our home and we're trying to do it over Zoom and be creative and with everybody else on Zoom as well, we sometimes have some glitches in our sound. So, to our listeners, I apologize. But we are going to keep going and because it's really important that we get this information out. So, thank you for being patient with me as well, Annette. And I'm excited that you're here.

[00:22:32.860] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
I just believe in this time we have to be kind, know that there's going to be challenges and kind of laugh our way through it or, you know, just be easy with it. So, yeah, it's all good.
[00:22:48.190] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Yes. Good thing neither of us are real perfectionists.
[00:22:52.010] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
[00:22:54.640] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So, just prior to the break now, when we were just going off into the break, you were telling us about your grandsons who are, who are both and I'm sorry, you said they are Moon Children?
[00:23:10.000] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Moon Children. I have a granddaughter and a grandson.
[00:23:12.530] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Okay, so tell us, what does it mean? What are moon children?
[00:23:18.760] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
So, that's one of the things I'll be covering in the class. But just to give you a little idea, Moon Children are very connected to the Earth. So, these children need to have their feet in the ground. They love either plants or rocks, animals. They're very connected in with the what I refer to as the 'earthly realms'. And that's on a soul level. That's what they're here to do to help with those different realms, the mineral, the plant, the animal. So, when you know that about your child, then you can make sure that they have their feet in the ground or you have a little garden for them to work in, or you accept the fact that they love collecting rocks because that's what they're drawn to. So, when you know who your child is at a soul level, you can support their vibration, you can support them, and who they are. And that's part of what I'll be covering in the class as well.
[00:24:34.960] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Now, you have been doing this type of work with children for a long time. And so, you do this also on a consulting basis. I mean, it's not just in the classroom. So, the classroom gives the parents and grandparents a chance to really learn together and get some good information that they can use right away. But you also work with people one on one with their kids and have been doing that for how long now?
[00:25:05.380] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Oh, let's see, since about 2002/2003.
[00:25:09.280] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So almost 20 years, 18 almost.
[00:25:12.050] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Yes, 18 years.
[00:25:13.750] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And so give us an idea of maybe so, people really understand why it's important to know this type of work and why it's important to know their children on the soul level. Kind of give us an idea of some of the experiences that you had before.
[00:25:31.930] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Well, let's start with just this is one of the reasons I offer the Tubes of Light for parents and children. So, there was, I remember this is when I first got started, a mom called me and she had a four-year-old who needed to sleep with the lights on in his room all the time. He was always in fear and he had dark circles under his eyes. He didn't get some good sleep, ever. So, I gave her the Tubes of Light and I said, 'do this for your child before he goes to bed.' And again, it's a protection. The other color that we call in is the Rose Light. So, they feel supported. It's the color of support. So, she did that. So, that night he slept all night. He didn't wake up. And the next morning he's at the breakfast table and he tells his mom, 'mom, I had a dream.' And she's going, 'oh, really? What was the dream about?' 'Well, we were on this boat. I was with my friends and the boat capsized. And I was the only one with my life jacket on. And I saved all my friends.' And the mom was going, 'Wow, really? That's amazing dream.' So what happened after that? She did the Tubes of Light for him every night. He got to the point he didn't he could sleep without the lights on. He felt safe. He felt protected. So that's, it was one of these wonderful stories. So, the Tubes of Light is very important for children and they don't always have dreams like that, but there's something that changes. There's another little...
[00:27:18.020] - Candi Broeffle, Host
I think I almost had like a confidence-building. Like,  I can save my friends, but I can also save myself. I can be safe, I don't have to be scared anymore.
[00:27:31.530] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Exactly. So there's that support that they feel. It's like, yeah, I can do this. There was another little boy, another mom started doing it for her son, six years old, and she forgot one morning. And they're driving on the way to school. And he says, 'Mom where's my lights? You have to call in my lights. I have to have my lights on. So, he knew that the lights weren't there, right? The colors weren't there. And then a few days later, he said, 'Mom' and I can't remember his cousin's name. Say, Ben. 'My cousin Ben, he needs his lights, too. Can we do the lights for him?' So, these kids on some level, it's like they feel something is needed. It's necessary. So, it's one of the first things I do with parents is, give them that tool. It's a very powerful tool.
[00:28:26.630] - Candi Broeffle, Host
[00:28:30.000] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
So, it's fun stuff. So, we're working with color. We're working with light frequencies. So, working with the colors, a lot of parents start bringing their children in to do it for themselves. So that's wonderful, too. Okay, so some other situations, I remember working with this one mom, she had a... They moved and her three-year-old, she would pick her up at daycare and she was always standing by herself. So I was tuning in. I always clear energy. I'll go into that later. But so, I tuned in to this little girl. I always ask, what color do they need? So, it's like, oh, she needed fuchsia. So I told the mom, I said, 'in the morning when your daughter's getting ready to get dressed, instead of asking what she wants to wear, ask what color she wants to wear today.' So, it's how you ask the question. And it was very interesting. Every day she picked fuchsia like something in that fuchsia and she's pink, you know, she's a girl.
So, of course, she's going to have a lot of pink fuchsia kind of colors. So, she was picking colors close to fuchsia every day. So, after the second day of wearing that color, she went to pick her daughter up and her daughter is just in the middle of all these friends. So, it was the color that she had put on. It's a vibration and the vibration of fuchsia is collaboration. So, she needed that color that she was needing helped her collaborate or connect with these other kids in the daycare. And it totally shifted. And after that week, it created a new pattern. And she was always with these kids. So, it's little things like that, that really make a big difference sometimes.
[00:30:35.580] - Candi Broeffle, Host
That is just so interesting and, you know, in some aspects you wonder if she hadn't known that herself as well, just like you said, they know that there's something missing, but they just don't necessarily know what it is. And so, a question for you. Would she have to continue to wear fuchsia or pink, in order for it to happen, or once it happens, it's cleared.
[00:31:02.330] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Yeah, once it happens, her energy shifted. It kind of lifted her out of whatever energy that had created separation and it brought her into a place of collaboration. So, she chose that color for about a week, and then she didn't need it anymore. So, then and I always tell parents. So, one of the things that parents get is it's a color chart. So I work with twenty-four light frequencies - colors and every color has a quality. So, when you ask your child, what color do you want to wear today, you can have a chart there that goes, oh, he asked for yellow. He's connecting to his wisdom or he's asking for green. She's asking for green. She needs some healing today. So when you ask what color and then they tell you, then you can look at the chart and go, oh, that's what they're asking for today. So it creates a connection.
[00:32:04.850] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So, one of the things that you also talk about in the class is clearing karma. And so, sometimes people, I think, misunderstand what karma is. So, as we have a couple of minutes left here before we go to break, so maybe you can help us to better understand what karma is and why it's important. And if we don't finish, we'll come back and talk about it after the break. But let's start off with what is karma?
[00:32:35.420] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Okay, so, I have a very, very simple explanation for what karma is. So, I know a lot of people think I did something to somebody in the past life. I'm going to get it back. And yeah, that's part of it. Simple explanation. Karma is anything that has created separation. So, it could be a feeling, an emotion, a pattern, an experience that you're carrying with you, it's a vibration that has disconnected from that field of oneness. And that's simple. That's what Karma is. So, when I work with people, I work with adults, of course, but also children. So, a lot of times we think, oh, children, they come in and they're fresh and they're neat new. They've got these babies. They can't have karma. Every one of us that are born on this planet has some karma that we carry with us in our etheric fields, in our soul. We come in with something to clear. So, one of the things I've given parents is helping their children clear karma.
[00:33:58.570] - Candi Broeffle, Host
We're going to talk about that as soon as we come back.
[00:34:01.490] - Annette Rugolo, Guest

[00:34:02.170] - Candi Broeffle, Host
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[00:34:34.410] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Welcome back to Green Tea Conversations, where we delve into the pages of Natural Awakenings magazine and talk to the professionals who share their expertise on natural health with you, I'm your host, Candi Broeffle. And today we're visiting with Annette Rugolo in Environmental Healing consultant and author of the book Soul Whisperer: Releasing Lost Souls. And Annette is offering a class coming up on July 20th, starting on July 20th, called Energetic Support for Children and Grandchildren. Welcome back to the show, Annette. Glad you're with us.
[00:35:07.920] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Thanks, Candi.
[00:35:10.260] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So, just before the break, you were helping us to understand what it means to clear karma or what karma is and then why you're teaching this or what it is that you provide for participants going through the class with you.
[00:35:27.050] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
So, yes, so a little bit more about karma. So, how would parents recognize if their children have karma? So, like, I said earlier, we all come in with some kind of karma and sometimes it expresses itself, especially when the children start school. So, karma between classmates. I've helped a child clear karma with the teacher. So, karma will show up when it's like there's no reasonable explanation for some kind of tension I would say. This particular person, this little girl had a teacher that absolutely didn't like her, picked on her and there was some karma there from a previous lifetime. So, we bring this in and when we recognize this in our children, we can help them clear it. And it's nice when we can support them in that way as well.
[00:36:35.750] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So, please give us an idea of what happened with that little girl after her karma was cleared.
[00:36:43.190] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
The whole energy between the relationship between the teacher and this little girl was just done. It was cleared. And all of a sudden it's like it only takes one person to clear the karma, the energy, and it shifts it for both people. And this teacher started praising this little girl, supporting her. It's like the relationship totally shifted. And it's like all we did was clear the karma.
[00:37:10.040] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And it's interesting because we all experience it in some way or another at some point in our life where there's really no explanation as to why there should be a conflict with somebody or why there should be tension with somebody. But there is. And so, that would more than likely be our karma. 
[00:37:26.150] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Yep. And I always say when things are like over the top; like sometimes children have an over-the-top emotional reaction to either a person or even a place. There's some kind of energy there that they're letting us know that something is wrong, something isn't right. And this is, I love giving parents the tools to begin clearing that karma for their child so they don't have to deal with that day in and day out.
[00:37:57.080] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And one of the things that you were telling me about before while we were preparing for this show was that you really want to take care of these things before a child turns 14.
[00:38:08.090] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
[00:38:08.750] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So, what is magical about 14?
[00:38:11.810] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
So, at the age of 14, all of us and our children, the soul and the personality locks in. So it's a lock. So all of the karma that the soul came in with to clear in this lifetime all the challenges it locks in. And so, you think of confirmation, all the traditions, the religious traditions that at the age of 14, we say that person becomes an adult. Well, they're not. But it's but what they're saying is the personality and the soul locks in. So, Bar Mitzvahs, you know, that would be another example. So, we know this. And after the age of 14, then you need the personalities permission to do any kind of energy clearing, karma clearing for that child. But before the age of 14, they're still in that connecting, growing, expanding place. And this is where they're still in the energy of your family. It's a different connection. So, you can help them as much as you can before the age of 14. It's really important.
[00:39:31.070] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And if you do this before the age of 14, how can it impact their lives going forward?
[00:39:37.100] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
So what I've seen, so, I'm thinking about my grandson right now. He just turned 19, but I was doing a lot of clearing for him before the age of 14. And when he turned 14, first of all, it was like a magical day. You've just had this amazing 14th birthday. And since then I've seen, like, there's a greater ease and flow with his life. It's almost like, sometimes it looks magical, like, oh, like with coronavirus. He lost one job, but a couple of days later got another job. So, it changes their law of attraction. It raises their vibration. So, it gives them, I call it a foot up. A leg up, a head start as they enter their adulthood.
[00:40:31.960] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Isn't that wonderful, too? And don't we want that for our children and our grandchildren always?
[00:40:36.890] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
[00:40:37.620] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And so, to be able to come and take the class with you, The Energetic Support for Children and Grandchildren, we can learn how to do that and do that for the children in our lives who we love.
[00:40:50.230] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
[00:40:51.160] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Again, for people who want to register for Annette's class, you can go to Now, before we leave, we only have a couple of minutes left. We do want to let everyone know about something else that we're doing and this we're doing together, along with some other of our friends called In-solidarity, a learning community. And In-solidarity is for people who are committed to doing the work of anti-racism. And members who will join us will meet weekly to listen, learn, unlearn, and lean into the parts of our history and culture rooted in white supremacy. This is an opportunity for members to really take responsibility for our foundational racial education without burdening our friends and relatives, who are black, indigenous, or people of color. And so, you are teaching not teaching, facilitating, because we're all in this learning community together and we're all doing the work together. But you have a class that you're facilitating. I have a class that I'm facilitating. The classes are free. We have five people who are facilitating classes, although I think you're successful, correct?
[00:42:15.900] - Annette Rugolo, Guest
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:42:17.320] - Candi Broeffle, Host
But for people who really want to learn more about it, the first eight-week session that we're doing, we're going to be watching and discussing the documentary 13th and then moving right into the book called How to Be an Anti-racist by Ibram Kendi. And so, that's something that you and I get to do with this larger group as well. So, we'll each have our own learning groups and then we'll be coming together in a private Facebook group. And so, for people who want to join us, we just really, really welcome you to join us. And that just go to Thank you for joining us today. Thank you, Annette. I'm so glad you were with us. You've been listening to Green Tea Conversations on AM950 the Progressive Voice of Minnesota and I am wishing for you a lovely day!