Principles for Adult Education
July 27, 2020
In this week's episode, Sheldon reviews the principles of adult learning from an OSHA voluntary guidance manual.
TOW: Use the Susan Harwood Grant Materials to help with training you clients or workforce.
In this week's episode, Sheldon reviews the principles of adult learning from an OSHA voluntary guidance manual.
TOW: Use the Susan Harwood Grant Materials to help with training you clients or workforce.
[00:00:00] : this episode is powered by Safety FM. Welcome to the safety consultant Podcast. This is the show where I teach you the business of being a safety consultant. I'm your host Shelter Prime Miss. And this week we're gonna go to a topic that kind of I've been thinking of. I'm currently gonna be writing a course for an event, and this event has to do with instructional design. So just this a little background e. I've actually been doing instructional design for several companies already have worked with many big name companies for in just for designing not only courses, but then also reviewing courses as a subject matter expert in general industry and construction and in episode 14 give you kind of a tip of instructional design. And then I also a little later on further down, I also gave a little bit of understanding of how you could start doing your own training, if you will your own kind of work so that you can make supplemental income from doing courses that you put in that you have yourself has done so truly. I'm trying to use this, want to break into the idea The thought off in structural design itself. But I'm gonna be using a tool that OSHA already has available for you. So if you go to OSHA dot gov, there's a resource that they have, and this resource is called Resource is for development and delivery of training to workers. That's the name of this one. And if you were to go on the OSHA website type in the title, you're going to find this one. So again, let me, uh, give you that title. The title is Resource Is or resource for Development and delivery of training to workers and truly, really just breaks down to adult education. And how adults weren't is really what this boils down to. OSHA has some very detailed requirements on safety and health training, but along the way back in 2015 OSHA kind of figured out. Let's see if we could help thes workers that are the people who were becoming the instructors in your organization. We may need to teach them how to be better trainers. So they came up with OSHA publication 38 to 4-08 and there's a 2015 version of that. So OSHA number 38 to 4-08 and the updated version of that one is in 2015. And again, it's the resource for development and delivery of training two workers. They use a few models in this, but the idea is workers or adults. Thes adults need to be trained so that they know the hazards there are exposed to. So the people who are providing the training you could be a consultant, Let me itself or it could be someone in house that's going to provide this training. They need to understand the principles of adult education adult learning processes so they could deliver this training in such a way that is going to be, um, received, understood and applied in the workplace. So that's what this episode is going to focus on. Give you the understanding that you would need to provide this training to your adult learners at your organization. So when we come back after a word from the sponsor thing, we're going to get into this topic. Mhm. This is Sheldon Prima's, the host of the safety consultant podcast. During this time, we've all been tightening our belts because of covert 19. I have been as well recently, I found a cost effective alternative to some of the services and programs that I was using, such as email, marketing, hosting services and even one of my favorites. Teachable Visit Sheldon Prima's dot com back slash resource is for special offers to help you reduce your business overhead. If you're hosting a podcast or one of host a podcast, then visit Sheldon Primary. Com. Backslash hosting for a knockout deal Don't give up on your dream. Get smarter on the back end of your business. All right, welcome back to the episode and let's go through what I do have. And I truly want to make sure just going to give you an overview, because this can't be a college semester. If you were to truly try to do industrial design, especially when it comes to adult learners, you don't have a lot time, right? That's that's something that we could do right now. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give you the version that I usually use, and I truly have been doing this for a while. And the thing is, is I kind of like stumbled onto it. The reason why is I knew was a subject matter expert in general industry topics that all of them, but a good handy amount because of the work I did in the utility field in you till in the utility field, especially the liquid utility field order and wastewater treatment, you have a unique opportunity to learn both construction and general industry at the same time, because you're doing a lot of work that is underground utility. Therefore, there's a lot of excavation entrenching and some of the things that would be brought up permit required, confined space, even inside of an excavation or trench, or even permit required confined space when it comes to maintenance of pumps and a few other things because of the location of these pumps would be in what's called lift stations, then also had to deal with laboratory work and process control stuff and belt presses and things like that. So, generally speaking, those were those were usually things that you only get in one field versus the other, but you don't get that all at once. So my career I was able to get that all in one place, so in that for having that opportunity was able, Thio develop a understanding deep understanding of some of these complex. So when I added my OSHA training to this then then my certification as a certified occupational safety specialist, then that in itself helped me become subject matter expert for certain topics. So along the way, I honestly think the very first job like God during this was threw up works and it was HSI HSI is an organization and I can't remember who the parent company is now for HSI which is Health and Safety Institute, I believe it's been a while and they dio summit safety, I believe, is one of their products and I got contacted with them and they asked if I could start reviewing OSHA horses. So they gave me Ah, homeless general industry give you a whole category of construction. I started doing that and then later on a company called Red Vector got ahold of me and I created a few courses Red vector. If you were to go on their website right now type in my name, you'll be able to see some of the courses that not only did I create for them, but I delivered yet they're red red vector office in Tampa. Let's see, after them I believe the Knicks and a group was 3 60 training and I did several courses and reviews for 33 60 training. And I started writing New York courses for them. For the city of New York. They were compliant with their department of buildings and then American Safety Council. That was a subject matter and still am for them. And then, uh, Sabbath litmus, A swell, uh, creating courses and reviewing courses. So my background, it just one when it is kind of like a pretty much it felt like a snowball effect, if you will. So basically one company reached out to me that the next company reached out to me, and shortly after the next company reached out to me. So I had to really cohen my skills over the last few years, and I've probably been doing this now for a good must be about 4 to 5 years now tell you the truth is it's been a little while. I'm not saying I've been in structural designing the whole time. I've been a safety consultant, but a good component, a good opportunity. When it came, I just took it, and I've been doing this kind of work for a long time. And then with those skills, I was able to develop my own courses. And therefore I started doing not only the safety blueprint course that you've heard me talk about and my principal advertising right now, but also I've had another course and usher compliance on then a few other courses that I've added in there, my audiences, adult burners. So truly I'm not doing this for, like my wife. She's a teacher, her learning the people that's learning from her, our students, that her Children in elementary school primarily. And that's before she retired. But my audience there are people who are learning this material to eventually either prevented injury or illness or to save their lives. So it's a very, very important topic that I teach them correctly and that also this the OSHA compliance side, too. So I really wanna make sure that they're compliant with OSHA. So the document I told you guys to look up if you didn't already. Here's the name of the document. One more time. It is resource for development and delivery of training, two workers. So that's the The idea is weird as Osho saying We're going to help you when it takes when you need to start training your workers and we're going to show you this is the principles for adult learning. The reason I came up with this topic for this week was because I was doing last week of Virtual Cost Class, which is certified occupational safety specialist e. Teach that class for the Alliance Safety Council from time to time. Physically, we like to do the class, but now that things have changed quite a bit, we can't do it physically anymore. So E did Well, we can just take some extra planning. But I've been doing it virtually for a little while. So this one has been pretty pretty near and dear to me because I'm currently living how a dirt learners adult learners, especially in a virtual setting, need to be engaged. And we also make sure that they have the learning outcome that they need specifically for this class I was teaching. They're learning outcome is going to lead towards their certificate that they could use. That's gonna be, you know, those d comma after your last name. You know where everyone's thinking that safety designation. So these individuals, they could tell, I could tell that they're learning and they're understanding material because they pass a test after the week of class and then get that safety designation. So it's also important for them because they invest a lot of money for this class is well, so I wanna make sure I'm delivering enough in the information in the manner that they're gonna understand it. So that's what I'm doing with the teaching adult learners. So this is also leading to something that I'm currently trying to do in developing a course for this. So it's, you know, just kind of stuck in my mind, I figured, stuck in my mind. Get it out, share it with you See, So you guys were the beneficiaries off something being stuck in my mind right off the bat. So let's hopefully by now if you're not driving because you can't do this while you're driving. But hopefully by now you've pulled up that resource page. You're gonna kind of take a look at that. So I'm going to go to the table of contents right away, tell you what's on that So you're gonna see characteristics of sound training programs. That next thing they talk about is best practices for training adults think principles of adult education. And there's a checklist that goes with that program design, delivery, evaluation elements. And then they have a few appendix after the end in that appendix is just basically to help you find some resource is so that you could make sure that you're going to match up. What? I was just teaching you here with the actual practical horses that you're delivering. So we're not going to do this whole thing. That's gonna be a little too much, though. I'm really gonna focus on principles of adult education. That's the thing. I really want to make sure that we're gonna leave here today with these principles. So I'm going to read the following principles to you and then kind of do, ah, brief my thoughts on these principles. How's that? So it's gonna be my thoughts on the principles and I'm delivering to you through this guided OSHA document. Number one. It says adults are voluntary learners in school. You're not voluntary learners, right? You're stuck there. You got to be there. It's a condition of being a student. You don't wanna be truancy if you miss school. And even if you learned at home, you know, that was a condition that your parents had. You had to do it right? So adult learners or voluntary eso, basically they want to learn and they get out there. However, with OSHA compliance things that's mandatory. Because now oh, she's telling you as the employer us to consultant, that you need to deliver this material in such a way in such a format. In some cases, they even give you the curriculum you need to teach, and then that is going to eventually be what the workers were going to receive. They're gonna understand. They're gonna regard to keep that back to OSHA. If they're ever in OSHA, the citation or inspection, let's say that so they have to understand this information. At that point, it's mandatory, but yet, in some cases, the learning itself. Some people will choose to taken OSHA 10 class. They'll choose to take a OSHA 30 class, or they may wanna learn about a specific topic. I remember one time I wanted to learn about electricity, so I chose to take electrical basic electrical course toe Help me out in a long, long time ago. Another principle is adults learn needed information quickly. So therefore, whenever they're using a tool using a process going someplace specifically that is going to be to help them into career or it's going to keep them safe and sound. They're gonna be motivated enough to really learn that information. So what will happen in those situations is if you are the subject matter expert, you're delivering that information. They want to know that right now they want to know that information as quickly as possible. In some cases, they want you to bottle. I'm now. Yeah, Yeah, that is. Give me the bottom line. What do I need to notice? Stay safe and then I'm going back in the field. So that's one of the things that the adults kind of would lead you to it. But you have to give him some good information, tow back that up to make it work. Adults come with a good deal of life experience, that knowledge that needs to be acknowledged. So again, I'm reading the principles for you that OSHA has here. That's a really big thing when it comes to life principles and adults when they're trying to learn the technical side of something that they do day in and day out. But then sometimes they just wanna learn the safety aspects. And if they need to learn to safety aspects of something that they're doing over and over again, then truly that's all they really care about is just the the safety aspects of these things. So when the adult learners come to you, they have experienced already on how to do the job. Chances are they may have a You have more experience in some cases, and then you're just delivering them the safety method of doing the job. So let's give you, for instance, anytime I go and I talked to like a tradesman, I make sure that I tell them I am only here to help you with either ocean OSHA compliance or to think how to critically and safely do you the functions of your job seamlessly as you're doing your work. So therefore you teach me how you do your work. Teach me some of the nuances you can. It would be better if I could go out and see you and actually see how those nuances work. Because then I'll get a really good understanding of how things are going Thio affect you If I tell you that, Yes, at this point, you need Thio where your goggles And now you're telling me that these things were getting fogged up so bad you can't see and that that sort of greater hazard way gonna have to work around this. So let's just let's see if there's something else that we could we could do. Maybe we shouldn't use PP in the setting. Maybe I could use engineering controls or administrative controls or something else. Let me understand what you're doing. So then I could better provide training for you that is going to be practical. And then we could even deliver information that's gonna be practical to you that therefore you then are going to get a better understanding. So adult learners have that innate where they have so much life experience, especially for teaching them about a safety and health of their job that they do every day thio nd out. It's good. Thio, listen and learn from their experience. You have to treat adults with respect. So therefore, as you're instructing, it shouldn't come from a condescending attitude. And then if you do have such an experience that you yourself may have been an equipment operator, three instruction shouldn't be like, Hey, tell me, what are you doing over here? I would have done this differently when I was in your position and then starts out with that conversation. So now again, you're pitting yourself to your listener, and it's gonna put up a barrier that they're not even gonna want to hear you because they already tuned out saying, Man, I think this is where person says one more thing. I'm out of here. That's not what you're looking for, right? You're not looking for constant conflict confrontation. You're looking for making sure this person gets the information that is needed on. Then they do what's required and beyond to keep themselves safe. So in those cases you want to make sure that the adult is always treated respect. Helter adults learn mawr when they participate in a learning process. So that means, especially if you're going year after year after year with the same group. And I've actually have this experience quite a bit where I would go year in year out to the same people, and I'm teaching them permit required confined space. Or I'm teaching them full protection or something like that. After a while, if you tell the same stories, what's the difference between you and putting in a video? It's gonna be the same thing to them. So you're gonna end up having to do it in such a way that you're gonna motivate your worker, motivate the listeners to participants. You need to do something else, just gonna engage them and bring them in. In some cases, you might have to do one of those games, like if you remember my interview with Linda Tap. She has safety fundamentals, and she has F u N is fun in her in her group, and I believe it's safety fundamentals dot com. She created a bunch of products that is going thio teach people. How'd a deliver material that is usually drawing deliver material that no one was the year but in such a fun participated way that then the workers become part of the learning experience. Therefore, it kind of puts it off a little where it makes it where they want to be in your classes. Opposed it. Shelton's here again. What more is you gonna tell us this year that he has built us? You know, 234 years ago. So that's one of the things that you know, you really got a lawyer work on because as they participate in their learning the adults, they're gonna learn more. They're gonna feel better about it. It's gonna be easy for them to participate s So that is a good principle toe. Have it another one that they say is adults learn best by doing so trying physically doing so. Therefore, if it's possible especially, let's say you're doing a full protection class and you could bring in your full body harness lifeline. And there's some people that actually have, you know, homemade anchor systems that they made for demonstration purposes, and not that they're going to do this in the field. But if you have the ability to pull up a truck and the truck has several different things that they could try even labs now, then that might be something that they would love. Right now, the virtual reality thing is big in the field. so you can actually do virtual reality training where someone is sitting at a station and it looks like they're operating something out in the field. They're learning they're being participated participants in this learning, and now it really means something because there could move controls and their tactile learners. So therefore, that's gonna help them and cry that quite a bit. So they're actually learning from that. And you could even do things such as, Like, if you're in a CPR class, they always encourage you. Thio do scenarios together for you and your students, but you could do that with any safety and health class. Even if you're doing ladder safety, you know how easy is a grab a ladder? Let's grab a ladder. Let's actually show me the right pitch. Show me what it looks like to do three points of contact or something similar to that. Or you could break everybody in little workgroups to work groups go very, very well because then now you're having pure on pure learning. It makes it so that the class will break up its physical mindset where you're moving along inside the class, so those are some of the ways that you could, uh, experience or get the workers to experience training and learning in a different light. So that's a good one. Adults they like to try on or practice whatever they're learning. Dollar tip that OSHA is giving you here says adults need to dio where they're heading. So basically, you're giving them a logical road map that says we are leading you towards this. You're going from Step A, which is gonna lead to be logically. And that's the key. You wanna make sure that your training is set up in such a way that logically it has that lead in from one thing to the next to the next, and then they could get to the end of their learning objective. And one of the things I didn't mention it is objectives in every module. You should have some sort of learning objective, right? You've probably seen it. Any other course you've ever taken in your life. You probably have a learning objective that will say something similar to this A To the end of this training you will understand is this topic at the end of this module, you should be able to demonstrate this. So those are the learning objectives. That's the path, the road map. If you will do what this adult learners gonna get, so it's you know what's in it for me. It's truly what it pulls down. Thio. Well, what's in it for me? Why my hair to donate their nice. The bagels are great, but I need something else more than this. What's in it for me and that Zatz, that road map that they seek. Adults learn best when new information is reinforced and repeated. So once you say something, there's old phrase with with delivery of material and I e think I'm gonna scroll down. I've got my my actual, uh, like a list of different presentations I've done before, or just a different podcast, not presentations. But I believe I already did a podcast on how you can truly make your next presentation even better. And it looks like it was all the way down to Episode 24. So my episode 24 says 10 speaking tips to help you nail your presentation. E remember one of the first times I was doing, um, I was actually learning about public speaking. This was in one of my classes when I was doing my bachelors in marketing have this teacher and hey was a pretty cool teacher. I gotta I gotta tell you, who's is one of those, uh, instructors that we liked and I went to University of Phoenix and one of the things that they pride pride themselves on, and this was physically in class E did a little mixture of online and then physically being in class. But one of the things at that time that they really just had to have in instructors is people who was doing this in the field actively so that they knew exactly what the listeners and what the students were feeling, what they're experiencing, and they can be more of a mentor to them. So this is something that new, and that's something he made up. But the way he delivered it just got stuck in my mind. And it was Tell them what you're going to tell them. Tell them Tell them once you told them so that it was his way and he kept saying it in just such a matter of fact, way in class and just, you know, and then it became almost like a running joke throughout the rest of the class and further sessions where you just say, All right, tell them. Tell them what you're gonna tell him. Tell him. Tell him what you told them. So that's having a beginning. A middle and an end. And what you're doing there is your reinforcing that information for the adult learner over and over and over in three different ways. So you tell them Excuse me. Tell them what you're going to tell them. Tell them Tell them what you told him. So with those three distinct areas of this learning, they're gonna get a good understanding that, yes, this is the material that I need to know. And now it's reinforced again, and now it's reinforced again. And I do that in my my other classes, too. So, like, if I have ah, weeklong class, I would kind of introducing a topic two days ahead and just say, I know we haven't gotten here yet, but we're about to do this topic on Wednesday or we're gonna do this topic on Thursday morning, and I really want to make sure that you're going to get this information is quickly. E no, I wanna make sure that you understand this information. I probably wouldn't say quickly. I want to make sure you understand this information, and that's, uh the way I would bring it to him. Then I'll tell them the topic when a day's come. You know, Tuesday, Wednesday, whenever the day comes with that topic, and then on Friday I always do a wrap up and the wrap up. And if and if it's a 40 hour class, the wrap up will be This is what you learned. So we at least touched topic three times within the time frame that I am going thio be there influencing teaching this adult learner on the last thing event. OSHA has a Sfar Azaz principles for adult learning. They say adults learn better when the information presented in different ways. So that means you're teaching techniques. You're gonna have to develop and evolve in such a way that it's not gonna be just you and death by PowerPoint. You know, shorts of you've probably heard that phrase already. The death by PowerPoint. You don't wanna have that where people are just completely just fed up of you clicking from one slide to the next. Like the next line I do. My power points completely different. I have them up. I don't mind people reading while speaking to him, because many people will tell you well on Lee, do two or three short bullets on your presentation slide so that people will be listening to you instead of reading. That's fine. I do that, too, in certain cases, and in some cases where there's a lot of information and I want them to digest, I'm a k leaving it out there. And while they're reading it, I'm explaining it to them as to this is what you're seeing. This is what you're reading, and in some cases, I just Hey, uh, what do you think of this? And I just literally let them read a little, gives me time to rest my voice. It gives it a non opportunity for them to truly get kind of out of the mindset that they're in and just start reading and participating through reading. And then I'll ask somebody. Hey, Billy, Susie, show Sammy, what do you think of what you're eating here? And then they get their their point to me. Then we have the debate, we have a discussion, whatever it takes. So in that way, E want to make sure that the information is gonna be prevented presented to them that, yes, they could read it through the power point and then another way is going to be a classroom discussion. And then I could even add a short video if I needed to. Uh, if you're using one of those techniques to do a game or you could do hazard hunts, if you will, that's another way for you to present material U. S. So therefore, it's going to give the adult learner a good opportunity. Thio truly get, um, understanding of the material in such a way that now it's palatable to them and they're going to do it. That's the key, right? You wanna make sure that you're giving them information that they're going to do that, they're going to be able to keep themselves safe because our information is environmental, health, safety. Some of you may have that extra s of security, but either way it's going to keep the workers safe, is going to give them the right to know what hazards there around. So Therefore, they could protect themselves from those hazards that they're gonna be exposed. Thio. So that is the principles that OSHA has set forth in that resource for development and delivery of training to workers. That's the name of the document that you wanna look up. OSHA also has a number for that one. So it's ocean number 38 24. Dash 08 to 15. And it's a pretty decent sized document. 52 pages worth of a document. You know something you don't wanna print right away. You're from the house. You wanna go ahead and go to OfficeMax or I think they're still in office. Max on the T shirt. Wherever you could do your office printing whatever store is still around, I actually have. Ah, I believe Office Depot. You know what? That's what it is. Office Max and Office Depot kind of combined. So now it's those two and staples in the U. S. I'm not too sure. Wherever you're listening to me, there might be another entity who'll have them printed. That's the key. You don't want to do this one at home. So we did go through very quickly. That document just to give you the ideas behind the principles behind adult learning. Uh, this obviously, it's going to be just scratching the surface. There's different ways of making sure you do this. And OSHA also gives you ah, thought beyond that in that document. So you really want to check out that document to and look at it very deeply, and I am going to let you know about the instructional design, Uh, course that I'm gonna be doing in the future. Hopefully, in obvious. I'm trying to set it up, so I'll make sure I announced that after I get it all set up. All right, so when we come back, we're gonna talk about the tip of the week. Do you want to be a safety consultant? Listen to Dr J. Allen of Safety FM. Give his experience after taking the safety consultant blueprint course. I have actually done research on different consultants and looked at different consulting courses and so on. There is a pretty fancy, very expensive consulting course that is out there. I have actually purchased the consulting course was interested in It has good information. Don't get me wrong, but you have a consulting course that really drives people onto focusing on safety and how to become a safety consultant, I will tell you on your particular course, there was a better information in that particular regards thin the other consulting course. There was more of a generalist form, but I figured I felt like I got more information out of yours on your giving. 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Uh, some of you may know about this. I believe I spoke about it before, but OSHA has just ended the period for people to do the Susan Harwood grants. Now, that is something set up where? There. If you're a nonprofit or if you are tribal nation, you could request from OSHA Thio help pay for you to search out specific topics that they have need of people getting this information from. And a soon as you submit your document as a nonprofit OSHA through grants dot gov they go through all the applications and then they award people to get this money to develop this training. And the caveat is, as soon as you develop this training, you're actually going to have toe Also, submit this information toe OSHA, so OSHA will have the information. You will have the information, and the, uh on ocean will have it where it's available on their website. So you goto OSHA don't go. So once you get the ocean dot gov, you truly wanna just type in Susan Harwood Grant. That's one of the easiest way to find it. And if you can just type in Susan Harwood, Grant Theune, the other thing you wanna do is just go to training under, uh, the website. And then once you go to training, then you could look up Susan Harwood Grant that way so you could do it. You could look up training, and it's all free training there. And they have a lot of topics, all topics of safety and health, that they do have a lot of topics, and, uh, what you'll end up doing is you'll scroll down. I like doing the A dizzy index. That's a little bit easier for me to find things. It's just go down to a dizzy index, and when I go down to a dizzy index and I could look for fall protection under F or it could do silica under S or something similar to that and that makes it easy, or the other way to do it is if you know specifically a language, you need to find training on you could search by language or you could search by institute. If you know someone who's already got approved for Susan Harwood Grant, then you can actually look up that entity and then see what training that they have available already. And that's the other way of doing that. S So What you would want to do, though, is once you click on the training you want, so I'm gonna give you a nice for instance. I'm looking at the grant material right now. The very first one says Aerial lift. This one was done by the Tree Care Institute Association on 2014. So if you're at home and not driving you can actually do this is, well, it's the very first thing under a Once you click on that, you could scroll down and you could see that it has an aerial lift safety course. It's got a pre test and a post test, so that's two pages long. But the actual training is 137. Power point slide, and you could download the power point itself, and you can also download that pre and post test. So in that way you can have something that you could use for your for your workers right now. So it's a really good, um, really good system. I'll scroll down a little bit more, and I see, uh, Florida State College of Jacksonville, which actually was an adjunct instructor for them once before. Yeah, I was teaching the general industry OSHA classes, Yes. So they have a training there for his bestest and also one for our amputation. So again, if you're falling along with me, it's gonna let's do the asbestos One is gonna be the last one in the A section. So you click on that one and they actually have plenty of not only English power points, but, well, one Spanish or 1233 Spanish power points there. And they also have lesson plans there, and they have case studies there. So you'll have lesson plans and his studies available to you that you could use right now for your organization. So that's the key. You want to make sure that you find the right information and then go ahead and like through it, using what you can from the material here of print out the stuff that they have for a student guides and some of them. They even have instructor lesson plans. And they have student handouts and train to train our material. So this is really good, Especially if you have to be the trainer for your organization for the adults. So that is the tip of the week. And I truly appreciate everybody that this little thing to me this week and again it described button will be awesome and share it with a friend. But you got this. Go get your training on and I will see you next week. Go get oh, this episode has been powered by Safety FM.
[00:00:00] : this episode is powered by Safety FM. Welcome to the safety consultant Podcast. This is the show where I teach you the business of being a safety consultant. I'm your host Shelter Prime Miss. And this week we're gonna go to a topic that kind of I've been thinking of. I'm currently gonna be writing a course for an event, and this event has to do with instructional design. So just this a little background e. I've actually been doing instructional design for several companies already have worked with many big name companies for in just for designing not only courses, but then also reviewing courses as a subject matter expert in general industry and construction and in episode 14 give you kind of a tip of instructional design. And then I also a little later on further down, I also gave a little bit of understanding of how you could start doing your own training, if you will your own kind of work so that you can make supplemental income from doing courses that you put in that you have yourself has done so truly. I'm trying to use this, want to break into the idea The thought off in structural design itself. But I'm gonna be using a tool that OSHA already has available for you. So if you go to OSHA dot gov, there's a resource that they have, and this resource is called Resource is for development and delivery of training to workers. That's the name of this one. And if you were to go on the OSHA website type in the title, you're going to find this one. So again, let me, uh, give you that title. The title is Resource Is or resource for Development and delivery of training to workers and truly, really just breaks down to adult education. And how adults weren't is really what this boils down to. OSHA has some very detailed requirements on safety and health training, but along the way back in 2015 OSHA kind of figured out. Let's see if we could help thes workers that are the people who were becoming the instructors in your organization. We may need to teach them how to be better trainers. So they came up with OSHA publication 38 to 4-08 and there's a 2015 version of that. So OSHA number 38 to 4-08 and the updated version of that one is in 2015. And again, it's the resource for development and delivery of training two workers. They use a few models in this, but the idea is workers or adults. Thes adults need to be trained so that they know the hazards there are exposed to. So the people who are providing the training you could be a consultant, Let me itself or it could be someone in house that's going to provide this training. They need to understand the principles of adult education adult learning processes so they could deliver this training in such a way that is going to be, um, received, understood and applied in the workplace. So that's what this episode is going to focus on. Give you the understanding that you would need to provide this training to your adult learners at your organization. So when we come back after a word from the sponsor thing, we're going to get into this topic. Mhm. This is Sheldon Prima's, the host of the safety consultant podcast. During this time, we've all been tightening our belts because of covert 19. I have been as well recently, I found a cost effective alternative to some of the services and programs that I was using, such as email, marketing, hosting services and even one of my favorites. Teachable Visit Sheldon Prima's dot com back slash resource is for special offers to help you reduce your business overhead. If you're hosting a podcast or one of host a podcast, then visit Sheldon Primary. Com. Backslash hosting for a knockout deal Don't give up on your dream. Get smarter on the back end of your business. All right, welcome back to the episode and let's go through what I do have. And I truly want to make sure just going to give you an overview, because this can't be a college semester. If you were to truly try to do industrial design, especially when it comes to adult learners, you don't have a lot time, right? That's that's something that we could do right now. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give you the version that I usually use, and I truly have been doing this for a while. And the thing is, is I kind of like stumbled onto it. The reason why is I knew was a subject matter expert in general industry topics that all of them, but a good handy amount because of the work I did in the utility field in you till in the utility field, especially the liquid utility field order and wastewater treatment, you have a unique opportunity to learn both construction and general industry at the same time, because you're doing a lot of work that is underground utility. Therefore, there's a lot of excavation entrenching and some of the things that would be brought up permit required, confined space, even inside of an excavation or trench, or even permit required confined space when it comes to maintenance of pumps and a few other things because of the location of these pumps would be in what's called lift stations, then also had to deal with laboratory work and process control stuff and belt presses and things like that. So, generally speaking, those were those were usually things that you only get in one field versus the other, but you don't get that all at once. So my career I was able to get that all in one place, so in that for having that opportunity was able, Thio develop a understanding deep understanding of some of these complex. So when I added my OSHA training to this then then my certification as a certified occupational safety specialist, then that in itself helped me become subject matter expert for certain topics. So along the way, I honestly think the very first job like God during this was threw up works and it was HSI HSI is an organization and I can't remember who the parent company is now for HSI which is Health and Safety Institute, I believe it's been a while and they dio summit safety, I believe, is one of their products and I got contacted with them and they asked if I could start reviewing OSHA horses. So they gave me Ah, homeless general industry give you a whole category of construction. I started doing that and then later on a company called Red Vector got ahold of me and I created a few courses Red vector. If you were to go on their website right now type in my name, you'll be able to see some of the courses that not only did I create for them, but I delivered yet they're red red vector office in Tampa. Let's see, after them I believe the Knicks and a group was 3 60 training and I did several courses and reviews for 33 60 training. And I started writing New York courses for them. For the city of New York. They were compliant with their department of buildings and then American Safety Council. That was a subject matter and still am for them. And then, uh, Sabbath litmus, A swell, uh, creating courses and reviewing courses. So my background, it just one when it is kind of like a pretty much it felt like a snowball effect, if you will. So basically one company reached out to me that the next company reached out to me, and shortly after the next company reached out to me. So I had to really cohen my skills over the last few years, and I've probably been doing this now for a good must be about 4 to 5 years now tell you the truth is it's been a little while. I'm not saying I've been in structural designing the whole time. I've been a safety consultant, but a good component, a good opportunity. When it came, I just took it, and I've been doing this kind of work for a long time. And then with those skills, I was able to develop my own courses. And therefore I started doing not only the safety blueprint course that you've heard me talk about and my principal advertising right now, but also I've had another course and usher compliance on then a few other courses that I've added in there, my audiences, adult burners. So truly I'm not doing this for, like my wife. She's a teacher, her learning the people that's learning from her, our students, that her Children in elementary school primarily. And that's before she retired. But my audience there are people who are learning this material to eventually either prevented injury or illness or to save their lives. So it's a very, very important topic that I teach them correctly and that also this the OSHA compliance side, too. So I really wanna make sure that they're compliant with OSHA. So the document I told you guys to look up if you didn't already. Here's the name of the document. One more time. It is resource for development and delivery of training, two workers. So that's the The idea is weird as Osho saying We're going to help you when it takes when you need to start training your workers and we're going to show you this is the principles for adult learning. The reason I came up with this topic for this week was because I was doing last week of Virtual Cost Class, which is certified occupational safety specialist e. Teach that class for the Alliance Safety Council from time to time. Physically, we like to do the class, but now that things have changed quite a bit, we can't do it physically anymore. So E did Well, we can just take some extra planning. But I've been doing it virtually for a little while. So this one has been pretty pretty near and dear to me because I'm currently living how a dirt learners adult learners, especially in a virtual setting, need to be engaged. And we also make sure that they have the learning outcome that they need specifically for this class I was teaching. They're learning outcome is going to lead towards their certificate that they could use. That's gonna be, you know, those d comma after your last name. You know where everyone's thinking that safety designation. So these individuals, they could tell, I could tell that they're learning and they're understanding material because they pass a test after the week of class and then get that safety designation. So it's also important for them because they invest a lot of money for this class is well, so I wanna make sure I'm delivering enough in the information in the manner that they're gonna understand it. So that's what I'm doing with the teaching adult learners. So this is also leading to something that I'm currently trying to do in developing a course for this. So it's, you know, just kind of stuck in my mind, I figured, stuck in my mind. Get it out, share it with you See, So you guys were the beneficiaries off something being stuck in my mind right off the bat. So let's hopefully by now if you're not driving because you can't do this while you're driving. But hopefully by now you've pulled up that resource page. You're gonna kind of take a look at that. So I'm going to go to the table of contents right away, tell you what's on that So you're gonna see characteristics of sound training programs. That next thing they talk about is best practices for training adults think principles of adult education. And there's a checklist that goes with that program design, delivery, evaluation elements. And then they have a few appendix after the end in that appendix is just basically to help you find some resource is so that you could make sure that you're going to match up. What? I was just teaching you here with the actual practical horses that you're delivering. So we're not going to do this whole thing. That's gonna be a little too much, though. I'm really gonna focus on principles of adult education. That's the thing. I really want to make sure that we're gonna leave here today with these principles. So I'm going to read the following principles to you and then kind of do, ah, brief my thoughts on these principles. How's that? So it's gonna be my thoughts on the principles and I'm delivering to you through this guided OSHA document. Number one. It says adults are voluntary learners in school. You're not voluntary learners, right? You're stuck there. You got to be there. It's a condition of being a student. You don't wanna be truancy if you miss school. And even if you learned at home, you know, that was a condition that your parents had. You had to do it right? So adult learners or voluntary eso, basically they want to learn and they get out there. However, with OSHA compliance things that's mandatory. Because now oh, she's telling you as the employer us to consultant, that you need to deliver this material in such a way in such a format. In some cases, they even give you the curriculum you need to teach, and then that is going to eventually be what the workers were going to receive. They're gonna understand. They're gonna regard to keep that back to OSHA. If they're ever in OSHA, the citation or inspection, let's say that so they have to understand this information. At that point, it's mandatory, but yet, in some cases, the learning itself. Some people will choose to taken OSHA 10 class. They'll choose to take a OSHA 30 class, or they may wanna learn about a specific topic. I remember one time I wanted to learn about electricity, so I chose to take electrical basic electrical course toe Help me out in a long, long time ago. Another principle is adults learn needed information quickly. So therefore, whenever they're using a tool using a process going someplace specifically that is going to be to help them into career or it's going to keep them safe and sound. They're gonna be motivated enough to really learn that information. So what will happen in those situations is if you are the subject matter expert, you're delivering that information. They want to know that right now they want to know that information as quickly as possible. In some cases, they want you to bottle. I'm now. Yeah, Yeah, that is. Give me the bottom line. What do I need to notice? Stay safe and then I'm going back in the field. So that's one of the things that the adults kind of would lead you to it. But you have to give him some good information, tow back that up to make it work. Adults come with a good deal of life experience, that knowledge that needs to be acknowledged. So again, I'm reading the principles for you that OSHA has here. That's a really big thing when it comes to life principles and adults when they're trying to learn the technical side of something that they do day in and day out. But then sometimes they just wanna learn the safety aspects. And if they need to learn to safety aspects of something that they're doing over and over again, then truly that's all they really care about is just the the safety aspects of these things. So when the adult learners come to you, they have experienced already on how to do the job. Chances are they may have a You have more experience in some cases, and then you're just delivering them the safety method of doing the job. So let's give you, for instance, anytime I go and I talked to like a tradesman, I make sure that I tell them I am only here to help you with either ocean OSHA compliance or to think how to critically and safely do you the functions of your job seamlessly as you're doing your work. So therefore you teach me how you do your work. Teach me some of the nuances you can. It would be better if I could go out and see you and actually see how those nuances work. Because then I'll get a really good understanding of how things are going Thio affect you If I tell you that, Yes, at this point, you need Thio where your goggles And now you're telling me that these things were getting fogged up so bad you can't see and that that sort of greater hazard way gonna have to work around this. So let's just let's see if there's something else that we could we could do. Maybe we shouldn't use PP in the setting. Maybe I could use engineering controls or administrative controls or something else. Let me understand what you're doing. So then I could better provide training for you that is going to be practical. And then we could even deliver information that's gonna be practical to you that therefore you then are going to get a better understanding. So adult learners have that innate where they have so much life experience, especially for teaching them about a safety and health of their job that they do every day thio nd out. It's good. Thio, listen and learn from their experience. You have to treat adults with respect. So therefore, as you're instructing, it shouldn't come from a condescending attitude. And then if you do have such an experience that you yourself may have been an equipment operator, three instruction shouldn't be like, Hey, tell me, what are you doing over here? I would have done this differently when I was in your position and then starts out with that conversation. So now again, you're pitting yourself to your listener, and it's gonna put up a barrier that they're not even gonna want to hear you because they already tuned out saying, Man, I think this is where person says one more thing. I'm out of here. That's not what you're looking for, right? You're not looking for constant conflict confrontation. You're looking for making sure this person gets the information that is needed on. Then they do what's required and beyond to keep themselves safe. So in those cases you want to make sure that the adult is always treated respect. Helter adults learn mawr when they participate in a learning process. So that means, especially if you're going year after year after year with the same group. And I've actually have this experience quite a bit where I would go year in year out to the same people, and I'm teaching them permit required confined space. Or I'm teaching them full protection or something like that. After a while, if you tell the same stories, what's the difference between you and putting in a video? It's gonna be the same thing to them. So you're gonna end up having to do it in such a way that you're gonna motivate your worker, motivate the listeners to participants. You need to do something else, just gonna engage them and bring them in. In some cases, you might have to do one of those games, like if you remember my interview with Linda Tap. She has safety fundamentals, and she has F u N is fun in her in her group, and I believe it's safety fundamentals dot com. She created a bunch of products that is going thio teach people. How'd a deliver material that is usually drawing deliver material that no one was the year but in such a fun participated way that then the workers become part of the learning experience. Therefore, it kind of puts it off a little where it makes it where they want to be in your classes. Opposed it. Shelton's here again. What more is you gonna tell us this year that he has built us? You know, 234 years ago. So that's one of the things that you know, you really got a lawyer work on because as they participate in their learning the adults, they're gonna learn more. They're gonna feel better about it. It's gonna be easy for them to participate s So that is a good principle toe. Have it another one that they say is adults learn best by doing so trying physically doing so. Therefore, if it's possible especially, let's say you're doing a full protection class and you could bring in your full body harness lifeline. And there's some people that actually have, you know, homemade anchor systems that they made for demonstration purposes, and not that they're going to do this in the field. But if you have the ability to pull up a truck and the truck has several different things that they could try even labs now, then that might be something that they would love. Right now, the virtual reality thing is big in the field. so you can actually do virtual reality training where someone is sitting at a station and it looks like they're operating something out in the field. They're learning they're being participated participants in this learning, and now it really means something because there could move controls and their tactile learners. So therefore, that's gonna help them and cry that quite a bit. So they're actually learning from that. And you could even do things such as, Like, if you're in a CPR class, they always encourage you. Thio do scenarios together for you and your students, but you could do that with any safety and health class. Even if you're doing ladder safety, you know how easy is a grab a ladder? Let's grab a ladder. Let's actually show me the right pitch. Show me what it looks like to do three points of contact or something similar to that. Or you could break everybody in little workgroups to work groups go very, very well because then now you're having pure on pure learning. It makes it so that the class will break up its physical mindset where you're moving along inside the class, so those are some of the ways that you could, uh, experience or get the workers to experience training and learning in a different light. So that's a good one. Adults they like to try on or practice whatever they're learning. Dollar tip that OSHA is giving you here says adults need to dio where they're heading. So basically, you're giving them a logical road map that says we are leading you towards this. You're going from Step A, which is gonna lead to be logically. And that's the key. You wanna make sure that your training is set up in such a way that logically it has that lead in from one thing to the next to the next, and then they could get to the end of their learning objective. And one of the things I didn't mention it is objectives in every module. You should have some sort of learning objective, right? You've probably seen it. Any other course you've ever taken in your life. You probably have a learning objective that will say something similar to this A To the end of this training you will understand is this topic at the end of this module, you should be able to demonstrate this. So those are the learning objectives. That's the path, the road map. If you will do what this adult learners gonna get, so it's you know what's in it for me. It's truly what it pulls down. Thio. Well, what's in it for me? Why my hair to donate their nice. The bagels are great, but I need something else more than this. What's in it for me and that Zatz, that road map that they seek. Adults learn best when new information is reinforced and repeated. So once you say something, there's old phrase with with delivery of material and I e think I'm gonna scroll down. I've got my my actual, uh, like a list of different presentations I've done before, or just a different podcast, not presentations. But I believe I already did a podcast on how you can truly make your next presentation even better. And it looks like it was all the way down to Episode 24. So my episode 24 says 10 speaking tips to help you nail your presentation. E remember one of the first times I was doing, um, I was actually learning about public speaking. This was in one of my classes when I was doing my bachelors in marketing have this teacher and hey was a pretty cool teacher. I gotta I gotta tell you, who's is one of those, uh, instructors that we liked and I went to University of Phoenix and one of the things that they pride pride themselves on, and this was physically in class E did a little mixture of online and then physically being in class. But one of the things at that time that they really just had to have in instructors is people who was doing this in the field actively so that they knew exactly what the listeners and what the students were feeling, what they're experiencing, and they can be more of a mentor to them. So this is something that new, and that's something he made up. But the way he delivered it just got stuck in my mind. And it was Tell them what you're going to tell them. Tell them Tell them once you told them so that it was his way and he kept saying it in just such a matter of fact, way in class and just, you know, and then it became almost like a running joke throughout the rest of the class and further sessions where you just say, All right, tell them. Tell them what you're gonna tell him. Tell him. Tell him what you told them. So that's having a beginning. A middle and an end. And what you're doing there is your reinforcing that information for the adult learner over and over and over in three different ways. So you tell them Excuse me. Tell them what you're going to tell them. Tell them Tell them what you told him. So with those three distinct areas of this learning, they're gonna get a good understanding that, yes, this is the material that I need to know. And now it's reinforced again, and now it's reinforced again. And I do that in my my other classes, too. So, like, if I have ah, weeklong class, I would kind of introducing a topic two days ahead and just say, I know we haven't gotten here yet, but we're about to do this topic on Wednesday or we're gonna do this topic on Thursday morning, and I really want to make sure that you're going to get this information is quickly. E no, I wanna make sure that you understand this information. I probably wouldn't say quickly. I want to make sure you understand this information, and that's, uh the way I would bring it to him. Then I'll tell them the topic when a day's come. You know, Tuesday, Wednesday, whenever the day comes with that topic, and then on Friday I always do a wrap up and the wrap up. And if and if it's a 40 hour class, the wrap up will be This is what you learned. So we at least touched topic three times within the time frame that I am going thio be there influencing teaching this adult learner on the last thing event. OSHA has a Sfar Azaz principles for adult learning. They say adults learn better when the information presented in different ways. So that means you're teaching techniques. You're gonna have to develop and evolve in such a way that it's not gonna be just you and death by PowerPoint. You know, shorts of you've probably heard that phrase already. The death by PowerPoint. You don't wanna have that where people are just completely just fed up of you clicking from one slide to the next. Like the next line I do. My power points completely different. I have them up. I don't mind people reading while speaking to him, because many people will tell you well on Lee, do two or three short bullets on your presentation slide so that people will be listening to you instead of reading. That's fine. I do that, too, in certain cases, and in some cases where there's a lot of information and I want them to digest, I'm a k leaving it out there. And while they're reading it, I'm explaining it to them as to this is what you're seeing. This is what you're reading, and in some cases, I just Hey, uh, what do you think of this? And I just literally let them read a little, gives me time to rest my voice. It gives it a non opportunity for them to truly get kind of out of the mindset that they're in and just start reading and participating through reading. And then I'll ask somebody. Hey, Billy, Susie, show Sammy, what do you think of what you're eating here? And then they get their their point to me. Then we have the debate, we have a discussion, whatever it takes. So in that way, E want to make sure that the information is gonna be prevented presented to them that, yes, they could read it through the power point and then another way is going to be a classroom discussion. And then I could even add a short video if I needed to. Uh, if you're using one of those techniques to do a game or you could do hazard hunts, if you will, that's another way for you to present material U. S. So therefore, it's going to give the adult learner a good opportunity. Thio truly get, um, understanding of the material in such a way that now it's palatable to them and they're going to do it. That's the key, right? You wanna make sure that you're giving them information that they're going to do that, they're going to be able to keep themselves safe because our information is environmental, health, safety. Some of you may have that extra s of security, but either way it's going to keep the workers safe, is going to give them the right to know what hazards there around. So Therefore, they could protect themselves from those hazards that they're gonna be exposed. Thio. So that is the principles that OSHA has set forth in that resource for development and delivery of training to workers. That's the name of the document that you wanna look up. OSHA also has a number for that one. So it's ocean number 38 24. Dash 08 to 15. And it's a pretty decent sized document. 52 pages worth of a document. You know something you don't wanna print right away. You're from the house. You wanna go ahead and go to OfficeMax or I think they're still in office. Max on the T shirt. Wherever you could do your office printing whatever store is still around, I actually have. Ah, I believe Office Depot. You know what? That's what it is. Office Max and Office Depot kind of combined. So now it's those two and staples in the U. S. I'm not too sure. Wherever you're listening to me, there might be another entity who'll have them printed. That's the key. You don't want to do this one at home. So we did go through very quickly. That document just to give you the ideas behind the principles behind adult learning. Uh, this obviously, it's going to be just scratching the surface. There's different ways of making sure you do this. And OSHA also gives you ah, thought beyond that in that document. So you really want to check out that document to and look at it very deeply, and I am going to let you know about the instructional design, Uh, course that I'm gonna be doing in the future. Hopefully, in obvious. I'm trying to set it up, so I'll make sure I announced that after I get it all set up. All right, so when we come back, we're gonna talk about the tip of the week. Do you want to be a safety consultant? Listen to Dr J. Allen of Safety FM. Give his experience after taking the safety consultant blueprint course. I have actually done research on different consultants and looked at different consulting courses and so on. There is a pretty fancy, very expensive consulting course that is out there. I have actually purchased the consulting course was interested in It has good information. Don't get me wrong, but you have a consulting course that really drives people onto focusing on safety and how to become a safety consultant, I will tell you on your particular course, there was a better information in that particular regards thin the other consulting course. There was more of a generalist form, but I figured I felt like I got more information out of yours on your giving. 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Uh, some of you may know about this. I believe I spoke about it before, but OSHA has just ended the period for people to do the Susan Harwood grants. Now, that is something set up where? There. If you're a nonprofit or if you are tribal nation, you could request from OSHA Thio help pay for you to search out specific topics that they have need of people getting this information from. And a soon as you submit your document as a nonprofit OSHA through grants dot gov they go through all the applications and then they award people to get this money to develop this training. And the caveat is, as soon as you develop this training, you're actually going to have toe Also, submit this information toe OSHA, so OSHA will have the information. You will have the information, and the, uh on ocean will have it where it's available on their website. So you goto OSHA don't go. So once you get the ocean dot gov, you truly wanna just type in Susan Harwood Grant. That's one of the easiest way to find it. And if you can just type in Susan Harwood, Grant Theune, the other thing you wanna do is just go to training under, uh, the website. And then once you go to training, then you could look up Susan Harwood Grant that way so you could do it. You could look up training, and it's all free training there. And they have a lot of topics, all topics of safety and health, that they do have a lot of topics, and, uh, what you'll end up doing is you'll scroll down. I like doing the A dizzy index. That's a little bit easier for me to find things. It's just go down to a dizzy index, and when I go down to a dizzy index and I could look for fall protection under F or it could do silica under S or something similar to that and that makes it easy, or the other way to do it is if you know specifically a language, you need to find training on you could search by language or you could search by institute. If you know someone who's already got approved for Susan Harwood Grant, then you can actually look up that entity and then see what training that they have available already. And that's the other way of doing that. S So What you would want to do, though, is once you click on the training you want, so I'm gonna give you a nice for instance. I'm looking at the grant material right now. The very first one says Aerial lift. This one was done by the Tree Care Institute Association on 2014. So if you're at home and not driving you can actually do this is, well, it's the very first thing under a Once you click on that, you could scroll down and you could see that it has an aerial lift safety course. It's got a pre test and a post test, so that's two pages long. But the actual training is 137. Power point slide, and you could download the power point itself, and you can also download that pre and post test. So in that way you can have something that you could use for your for your workers right now. So it's a really good, um, really good system. I'll scroll down a little bit more, and I see, uh, Florida State College of Jacksonville, which actually was an adjunct instructor for them once before. Yeah, I was teaching the general industry OSHA classes, Yes. So they have a training there for his bestest and also one for our amputation. So again, if you're falling along with me, it's gonna let's do the asbestos One is gonna be the last one in the A section. So you click on that one and they actually have plenty of not only English power points, but, well, one Spanish or 1233 Spanish power points there. And they also have lesson plans there, and they have case studies there. So you'll have lesson plans and his studies available to you that you could use right now for your organization. So that's the key. You want to make sure that you find the right information and then go ahead and like through it, using what you can from the material here of print out the stuff that they have for a student guides and some of them. They even have instructor lesson plans. And they have student handouts and train to train our material. So this is really good, Especially if you have to be the trainer for your organization for the adults. So that is the tip of the week. And I truly appreciate everybody that this little thing to me this week and again it described button will be awesome and share it with a friend. But you got this. Go get your training on and I will see you next week. Go get oh, this episode has been powered by Safety FM.
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