Pellegrino Riccardi joins me for a long journey down many meandering paths. He provides unique insight into the Will Smith & Chris Rock kerfuffle that honestly is a take I hadn't heard. We also discuss the difficulties of communicating across cultural barriers, how hard it is to write a book even when you know you should, and much more! Check out his book 'Drowning Quietly: Memoir of a Man's Shortcomings' which I cannot wait to listen to when he records the audiobook (which he promised he would do). Warning: there is a decent amount of foul language...