Business Launch Podcast
Going Through Depression to Starting a Community stay Connected with Chris Dacanay - SOS - Suits or Shirts
November 14, 2022
Chris Dacanay shares his story growing up in violence which led to going through life with alcohol, drugs and mental depression. Chris with his experience decided to start a community and business where people in walks of life can stay connected. He also shares his early wins with a strong community and the affects of COVID to his business and community. 3 Business Tips from Dax: 1. be humble. And I think in line with that, don't inflate your ego when you see progress. 2. Expect the unexpected, right? So whilst you might have a good platform, or a great idea, or a great concept, or even really a good product, you can't expect your family or your friends to just, you know, buy or get, you know, um, invest in you or whatever it may be. 3. Execute on your idea. Don't wait. You can connect with Chris on the following platforms: Website: linkedin: Youtube: Twitter:
 Chris Dacanay SOS Interview

[00:00:00] Carlo Selorio: Hey, it's Carlo here from Business Launch Podcast. I'm here with a good friend of mine, Chris Duck and I, we runs his own business suits, suits, or shirts. It's, I've been seeing for at least five, six years he's doing interviews like me, and I love what he's doing. I love what he's all about. And, um, yeah, it's, it's finally time for us to touch base again.

[00:00:24] It's been, as we were just saying, it's over 20 years that we've seen each other. So welcome Chris Dacanay from Suits or Shirts. 

[00:00:32] Chris Dacanay: Sos. Yeah, man, thank you so much, Col. Yeah, it's, it's a, a blessing and a privilege to be here, man. I'm humbled you've asked, uh, for, uh, for me to jump on and yeah, happy to help.

[00:00:39] Always happy to 

[00:00:40] Carlo Selorio: help. Yeah, it's, um, it's been, it's been a great journey for me so far. It's been just under two months for me. Um, nice podcasting, but it's been very fruitful. The friendships and all the things that I've made from that has been all. So let's talk about you, Chris. Sure. Or [00:01:00] Dax, whatever people know you , but um, I know it was D See we go way back.

[00:01:05] That's in. Oh man. That's right. We go, we go back to our youth youth group days through Ys c, Youth for Christ. And we are part of this dance crew called Guidance. 

[00:01:17] Chris Dacanay: So, man, it was, it was the best and worst thing ever at that point in 

[00:01:20] Carlo Selorio: time. , my wife even. Um, remember when we competed at. 

[00:01:25] Chris Dacanay: Once. Yes. Groove. Yes.

[00:01:28] Carlo Selorio: I remember that. We were, we were wearing gray, gray pants, I think, or white. I can't, I, I just remember because she showed me a, 

[00:01:36] Chris Dacanay: we had white shirts. I, that whites. Yeah. But I, that 

[00:01:39] Carlo Selorio: photo, I, I had my shirt. It was long, so I tucked it in. Right. So she was, she was cracking up that my, my shirt was tucked in. Again.

[00:01:49] Everyone else is out. Why is yours 

[00:01:51] Chris Dacanay: tuck in? Yeah. You wanna be different. You wanna be different. You already setting the trend there, 

[00:01:55] Carlo Selorio: you know, But yeah, it's, um, you know, groove or now battle ground as it is, has evolved so [00:02:00] much. Yeah, 

[00:02:00] Chris Dacanay: yeah, yeah. Yeah. 

[00:02:01] Carlo Selorio: Cause brother, that was, that was based on, um, a little suggestion.

[00:02:04] What was the, I think we entered a different comp before. Mm-hmm. . And I suggested that, hey, let's, you should do something like this. And like, you know, because of, if we form guidance, you know, that a different era would've been made, or different things would've happened with the dance community here in Australia.

[00:02:23] That's right. But Chris, um, tell us about your background. Um, what, what, where were you born? Mm-hmm. . Where you, where you grew up. Mm. Yeah. 

[00:02:31] Chris Dacanay: Yeah. Well, I I think, um, winding back to their late eighties, um, so I migrated here with my family, uh, from Philippines to Australia around, uh, the late eighties. And growing up in Randwick, uh, was actually our first area, um, uh, RNs Grant.

[00:02:44] Yeah, man, I was the Easton boy. Um, like, uh, yeah, like Tupac back in the day, you know, growing up in the east and selling in the West. Um, but, uh, yeah, so my, my grandparents were already here, uh, from Phil, so we, we lived with them for a bit, but then my parents were actually in Quakers Hill. So my brother and I, I got an older brother, [00:03:00] is about three, four years, um, uh, older than me.

[00:03:02] And we would actually travel. Between Quakers Hill and Randwick every weekend. And you know, that's like seven years old. I was seven years old and I'd already been, I'd already be in the bus, you know, I'd already be catching, you know, trains and all that stuff. So I'd already been forced into independence, you know, during that time.

[00:03:18] And then eventually grew up in, uh, in Blacktown. So really, that's that part. But I think, um, growing up, you know, as early as five years old, uh, and probably right up until 17, I had, um, a lot of trouble with violence. Uh, a a lot of, uh, trouble with domestic violence, you know, with, uh, I'd always see as young as five, six years old, even seven years old, I'd always see my dad hitting my mom, you know, back in the day.

[00:03:38] And even me and my brother, you know, we would get smacked around. Yeah. And so that was quite normal in, in Philippines, you know? Yeah. And I  um, that's stuff that really affected me growing up when I was young, cuz I was quite rebellious. Yeah. You know, I just didn't really care about a lot of things.

[00:03:52] Yeah. Um, but yeah, so that's, that's really the. Troubled past, um, you know, in terms of alcohol and drugs and violence and being bullied in [00:04:00] school as well. So that, that really affected me a lot. And then sort of, um, changed my life towards, I think, late nineties to early two thousands when Francis Bautista a friend of mine from school who, you know, Yeah.

[00:04:10] Um, introduced me to ioc Fairness. And then from there, yeah, fairness. And then, um, yeah, and then obviously, you know, life changed, um, purely because I got to stay away from the crowd that I thought was gonna lead me to, you know, a a certain area. Um, but that was that part of the life. But then about mid 2000, 2006 specifically, um, even though I was serving for a, a good part of seven years and, you know, um, leading Sydney as well as a leader, um, 2006 was a really hard year for the family cuz both my parents had a stroke in the same year.

[00:04:40] Um, mum, mum and April and, and dad in September. And so my life again, took a different route. It was, um, okay, like, you know, I I went really, really good and got away from all the violence, blah, blah, blah. And then got into YFC, served, did all that. And then next thing you know, you know, I get this from God. And I was like, Okay.

[00:04:55] I was questioning a lot, you know, questioning about what, what, what's happened here. like, you know, I'm, I've done everything right and next [00:05:00] thing you know, I get this thrown in my face. So it's like, it was almost like a step back, um, into reality because I was serving, um, our friends in y c but now I had to step back and serve my family.

[00:05:10] Yeah. Which is, which was really tough. Which was really tough, you know, because Yeah. Um, 

[00:05:13] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. Yeah. It's been, um, Are your parents still wi 

[00:05:17] Chris Dacanay: with you now? Yeah, So, so they're, they're still with us. Um, unfortunately my mom and dad are no longer together, um, in that sense, but they are mutual. Yeah. So, you know, my dad's still around.

[00:05:26] Um, my dad is actually full-time now in a nursing home. Okay. Um, for a lot of reasons, you know, mainly because he needs round o'clock care. Yeah. And for the most part of three years, he's got onset dementia. And, um, it's, it's scaled to the point where, Okay, like, you know, we, we need someone to actually look after him.

[00:05:45] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. I totally understand that. It was my, my grandfather, my Lola, who, um, had dementia as well, so Right. He. When my son, my eldest son was three or four. We were living in Ville at the time with my parents. Mm-hmm. before church. [00:06:00] He'd taken my son for a walk and yeah, we knew he had dementia, but he didn't really, didn't really show it too much to us, but like mm-hmm.

[00:06:10] walking to the park in Keville, you know, where I used to live in Keville. Yeah. There's that little park there. Mm-hmm. . But they walked over there and they, um, were just about to go to church and they're still not back. And so it's been like an hour and a bit. Mm-hmm. started getting worried, so we drove around.

[00:06:23] Keville couldn't find them, and then finally we saw them near, near our P's place, uh, . Um, and, uh, we, my son was, my son's got a very good, um, photographic memory. I said, Lolo, we need to go that way. But it's just, uh mm-hmm. , it's, he, he didn't understand what the, why none we're going this way, but he was crying.

[00:06:44] But, um, but yeah, dementia really, really sucks. Yeah, man, it really, um, really affected the family and, um, it's just one of those things that if we can. If we can avoid it or we can help our family as we can, then we just [00:07:00] do it. 

[00:07:00] Right? 

[00:07:00] Chris Dacanay: Yeah. Yeah. Well I just saw on the news, um, about sleep apnea. Like if you've got sleeping issues now, you know, I mean, I just turned 40 as I said, and, um, if you're already having trouble with sleep and sleep apnea in general, it does have science to lead into dementia and Alzheimer's.

[00:07:13] So it's like, I think it's more the educational part. You know, I think the acceptance part, you know, we've certainly, um, already hit that part where it's like, okay, well this is dad's next phase. It's just quality, quality now, you know, And that's why a lot of the things that I've, uh, really let go, um, are leading towards that, about quality of time with, with people, quality of time, with family, um, and you know, if you're doing a business, sure, but what's really going to bring you the most value and that's gonna bring value back to your family is I think where you should spend the most time.

[00:07:40] Carlo Selorio: Okay. So, um, What event in your life? Mm-hmm. . Let's segue a bit, Um, what events in your life where you made, made you decide that you're going into 

[00:07:48] Chris Dacanay: business? Yeah. Um, 2016 was, um, probably again, another , another exciting year, but also a scary year. Um, scary being my cousin. Um, Edgar Santos, uh, passed [00:08:00] away, uh, from cancer, from fighting brain cancer for, geez, since he was 13 years old.

[00:08:05] So, um, he came back twice, but the last time that it, uh, came back, uh, was very aggressive and, you know, ultimately he lost the battle. But, um, that coupled with me going through depression, uh, and anxiety. Uh, and at one point as well, even suicide. Right? And, um, not a lot of people know that. And you know, I'm happy to share that cause I think I'm already at that phase where I'm very comfortable to share that, to help people and to connect.

[00:08:27] Um, yeah, there was one month where almost three times, you know, I felt like, um, I was living in an apartment in Blacktown and yeah, I felt like just, you know, just, it was just one of those things like it was just so much stress, so much pressure. Um, and it was just me. Um, my wife and her family were overseas and I don't think they even know about this.

[00:08:43] All she knows about it now, but, um, yeah, it was just one of those things that there was a balcony there and yeah, I just thought it was just like, it was just time and um, cause everything was going on, right? Everything was going on. My cousin passed away thinking all sorts of stuff and I just said, You know what?

[00:08:59] I pulled away [00:09:00] from that, you know, of course called the ambulance and all that stuff. And went through the whole journey of psychologists, psychiatrists, you know, getting the right help. But the thing is, Carlo like, I figured it out and I went through that journey myself. Yeah, right. It was a very dark, very dark alley.

[00:09:14] And, and I was still working at the same time, so it wasn't like I was outta work. Yeah. I was still working and I was like traveling a lot, traveling a lot between all, all around Australia for work. And I said, This can't be just me. If I'm going through this, there's someone else that's going through the same thing.

[00:09:30] Probably worse. Yeah. So surely there's gotta be some sort of platform, some sort of global platform, community platform, some supportive platform that people can unite, can go to an event, can, can do something online where, um, where you can talk about this stuff openly. Yeah. And um, yeah, funny, as funny as a name, I called it suits or shirts at the time and I still do.

[00:09:54] You know, even people keep asking me today, like, these soul suits or these soul suits. No, no, no, no. I don't, I I don't. But lemme tell you the story, you know, and, um, the [00:10:00] reason why I called it SOS suits of shows, I didn't even think about the SOS part by the way. You know, the whole SOS meeting that Save our Soul, um, suits are showed, was born because of that, you know, in all those things that I was feeling, but also the pressure, but also I was traveling with a lot of executives, you know?

[00:10:14] Um, and then, and then I'd come home and I'd be surrounded by, you know, everyday workers, right? Your blue collar workers. People are doing a tough in the warehouse, construction, whatever, doing long hours. But then I'd always compare and I'd go, you know, I'm, I'm always hanging out with executives, you know, um, Forbes listed, rich listed, and a b w.

[00:10:30] All these people are millionaires and they're just unhappy with their life, you know, And like some of them on drugs, some of them on really bad habit. And then on the flip side, I'd speak to someone who's, you know, out in Mount Druitt or Penh or Blacktown and just loving nine to five, getting paid X amount, but they're just loving it, loving.

[00:10:48] And I was like, yeah. And I was like, That's insane. So I was like, I'm gonna create a platform that doesn't matter where you were, uh, where you are, what you wear, who you are in this life, whether you're an [00:11:00] executive or not, men or women, um, we will have a platform that can allow people to openly talk and have a safe space.

[00:11:07] And we will have events so that we can allow people to connect in, in, in that form. Nice. And, and the rest is history, man. 

[00:11:13] Carlo Selorio: Yeah, I remember you. I didn't quite get what you were doing at the time cuz I had a lot of things going on in my life trying. Live life with the family. So I saw you were interviewing a lot of people, you were doing, you were doing things like go, wow, Chris is, Chris is going really, really well, whatever business he's doing.

[00:11:35] Yeah. So, um, that's why I want to reach out to you and it's like, what, what your business is all about. And it's, it's, it's a great initiative that you've started there. Yeah, man. 

[00:11:44] Chris Dacanay: Yeah, I wanted to, I wanted to start it because at the time, again, I didn't know who to reach out to Beyond Blue. Yeah, sure. Um, are you okay?

[00:11:52] You know, Black Dog Institute, um, all those things are great and all those, Um, but, but, but, but for me, there were almost reactive things. There were things that you would [00:12:00] turn to when you'd gone through the issue. Right. Um, whereas I just wanted to create this platform where we play basketball or we would go to a meditation retreat or you know, we, we, we catch up over like dinner, like a Korean barbecue or whatever.

[00:12:10] Just anything, just any event that can allow people to feel comfortable to get sometimes things. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Cuz sometimes it's, it's being alone is, is not easy man. 

[00:12:19] Carlo Selorio: No, it's not. Yeah. Um, what, what were the big wins in the start of your business? 

[00:12:25] Chris Dacanay: Yeah. Yeah. Uh, cool, cool. Yeah. So the biggest, probably the big wins in the first year or two was just establishing not the money, not how much money, not any of that.

[00:12:38] Yeah. The fact that you had an audience and the fact that people, after every person that I interviewed and connected with, they go, Bro, this is amazing what you're doing to get, And, and I wasn't even chasing any acknowledgement or like permission. Cause I think when you do these types of things, whether you're doing a podcast or whether you are doing life coaching, or whether you're doing an actual [00:13:00] service for someone, I think you need to be unapologetic, right?

[00:13:04] Because you know what you're doing is good and you're changing lives. And I think with that approach, I was like, Oh, whatever. You know, If you make something, you make something, then great. But for me, my mindset was, Impact lives. Yeah. Impacting 

[00:13:16] Carlo Selorio: lives. Well, you're definitely impacting a lot of lives. Um, I've seen some of your events online.

[00:13:22] I think the, the photos and the events that you've had, you've, you've connected with really powerful people. I I saw, I saw you've done, um, Commander, right? 

[00:13:30] Chris Dacanay: Yeah, Commander Steve was, Yeah. Yeah. We, we brought him to Blacktown and, uh, you know, when I did that event, I think I was 2019, um, people. That was just before Covid.

[00:13:38] Right. And I was like, um, yeah, we've got Commander Steve coming. They're like, How did you get Commander Steve to come to Blacktail ? And I'm like, you know, you just gotta connect authentically, but they don't see what happens before that. You know, like I've had to go meet, you know, um, Commander before, you know, when he was still with Michelle back then.

[00:13:53] Yeah. Um, yeah. To meet him, you know, 2, 2, 2 times. You know, like, like over coffee and just to, and we met countless [00:14:00] times online. You know, there was just a lot in lead up. Not a lot of people see all the hard work that you put into it. Right. And, um, all the hours spent. The, the hardest part, Carlo is time away from your family doing all the stuff that you like as an entrepreneur.

[00:14:11] Um, that's, that's the hardest part, you know, because it's like you have aspirations to build something from nothing and to come up with a concept and then execute and then make it a business. But then you, you're sacrificing all this time with your family. So that's, that's, that's the trickiest part, man.

[00:14:26] Carlo Selorio: Yeah, I know. It's, um, it's even like right now, we're both sacrificing our, our time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Both our families are waiting in the background. That's right. Um, but they've been, they're been supportive of me of what, what I've been doing. I'm sure your wife's been supportive of always 

[00:14:42] Chris Dacanay: what you've done.

[00:14:43] Exactly. So 

[00:14:44] Carlo Selorio: we've, we've got, You need that. Yeah. I think in any business you need someone, You need a partner who's there to help you if life partner or even a business partner. Right? Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. Um, on the flip side, what events have happened [00:15:00] where you weren't so sure if the business is gonna go or any challenges that you've, you've had?

[00:15:08] Chris Dacanay: Yeah, look, I mean, I think, I think it's a no brain. I, um, 20. End of 2019. The start of Covid right. Was, was, was insane. Um, people, people were um, thinking like, Oh, there's no, you know, when are we gonna catch up again? You know, when, when am I able to do events? You couldn't even go outside your house. Yeah, because we had the restrictions, right?

[00:15:24] So yeah, we turned to Zoom, you know, and, um, we made it, uh, a priority to catch up with people proactively. And sometimes it might be five, sometimes it might be 10, sometimes it might be three. But the fact is I wanted to keep it consistent and I think we did it every fortnight, or at least twice or three times a month where we just check in and do a Zoom check in.

[00:15:44] And um, think the largest crowd we had like 15 or 17 people and it was just all different places. I think we even had some people from New Zealand. For them, it was just like, yeah, like, you know, Covid sucks or whatever. But we were just talking about like what you're doing with your day, you know, to, to make sure that you are a [00:16:00] mentally okay.

[00:16:01] Because it was hard because the interaction, the human interaction wasn't there, but at the same time we were, we get to hear what, um, what people's background were like, you know, in terms of what you work, Like some people work in construction, some people are in the nursing, so you know, right there in the, in the front line.

[00:16:17] And we got to hear like from them, like, we're complaining because, you know, I'm in, I'm in it, I'm in sales or whatever, and. I'm complaining about, oh, not being able to go out, I only get half an hour to go to the gym, blah, blah, blah. But then you've got nurses who've been standing off for 12 hours a day and it was like, with no break.

[00:16:34] With no break. And sometimes they sleep there because they have to do a back to back. Yeah. So I'm like, What the hell am I complaining about? You know? And so for me it was important for me to actually go, you know what, um, even though Covid is obviously right here in front of us and we didn't know what the end, what the end of Covid was gonna look like.

[00:16:49] Right. We didn't know how long it was gonna be for. So we just said, let's just continue with what we're doing. And we were having clubbing nights on Zoom. 

[00:16:56] Carlo Selorio: Nice. That is awesome. We had a DJ 

[00:16:59] Chris Dacanay: and [00:17:00] everything. We, we had a DJ and everything. So I had motto. I had motto a couple of, a couple of times. You know, you have Curious, Do you have Yeah, I think, I I think we joined, We joined Curious.

[00:17:07] Cause you know, Curious was doing Live Fridays, right? Yeah. So, um, yeah, so we did all that stuff. So we just wanted to keep the interaction going. Yeah, 

[00:17:14] Carlo Selorio: for sure. That is, that is awesome. It's, um, I think it's, A lot of the businesses I've interviewed, a lot of their, a lot of their challenges and struggles were during Covid of course, because they, they all of a sudden business stopped, completely stopped.

[00:17:29] Business was hard to manage. Were they retail? Um, Oh, I've had different types of businesses. So it's been, it's been from, Yeah. I've had retail, I've had mm-hmm. , like a martial arts gym. Mm-hmm. . So we've had, um, lawyers as well. So, Wow. It's been different. My brother as well who had his, um, his, um, dance competitions or stand, uh, like stopped all of a sudden.

[00:17:51] But, um, I think everything started coming back and all the, all the covid stuff started, um mm-hmm. . Not go away because Covid seems to be [00:18:00] hanging around now, but now it's manageable. 

[00:18:02] Chris Dacanay: Right. So, Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was good. It was a good outcome, but I think it was, you just needed to be consistent and be genuine and be authentic that you're catching up with these people, but after Covid, what happens after that?

[00:18:14] Yeah. You know, you still check in, they still say hello, cause you know, those are, those are the people that you're connecting with, man. So, Yeah. 

[00:18:19] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. It's, it's, it's a great business. I think it's a, a business that's really heartfelt that you can, that you can actually give your time and like be fruitful in a way that you are helping someone.

[00:18:30] Someone who's lonely is someone who's doesn't know who to turn to. 

[00:18:35] Chris Dacanay: It's, yeah, like, um, we had a, um, SOS bubble event. So, you know, I call it everything was always SOS something. Sos something. And, um, sos bubble cuz uh, one of our friends opened up a, um, basketball court at the Hustle. Yeah. And, um, in Bury. And when they opened up, I think again that was like 20 19, 20 20, um, I said, No, let's, let's play ball.

[00:18:53] You know, And because some people were, you know, were able to go out and whatever for, you know, for a couple of hours or whatever it was. [00:19:00] And at that time we were still, still okay. But still bit of restriction, but just 

[00:19:03] Carlo Selorio: restrictions and how many people you 

[00:19:05] Chris Dacanay: can have. That's right. Yeah. So we had, we had like, yeah, limited, limited people, 20 max or whatever, and sanitize and all that.

[00:19:10] But one thing that came out of that, just going back to what you were just saying was when I invited this person, um, he didn't even know anybody and like he didn't even know anyone. And because. That for me was so special because that was almost quintessentially what this whole SOS thing is all about.

[00:19:27] This whole movement, this whole platform, this whole community drive the engagement. Because it's like you, you never know who needs it, and you never know what you're doing for others. Yeah. And then when he, when he sat down, he is like, Yeah, man, hey, just wanna say thanks for inviting me because, you know, I don't go out much.

[00:19:41] And I love basketball, but I don't know anyone in this community. I'm new here. He's, he's from America. He's an African American, um, basketball player. Yeah. And, um, you know, the boys didn't like playing with him cuz he, he played like, like real street style, Like, you know what I mean? Like elbows, like, I'm talking like from the Bronx, you know?

[00:19:55] And like I was just telling him, I said bro, like, Hey, hey, we don't do things out here man. We're friends here, [00:20:00] bro. And like, it was like, Okay, my bad, my bad. You know, I'll, I'll tone it down, bro. I tone it down. But I said, Yeah, just chill. Just chill. You know, cuz we're all friends here, man. So anyway, but yeah, that's, that's just a, a little bit of an example and now we're friends, you know, we're friends on Instagram and just, you know, he's got his own coaching, basketball, coaching business.

[00:20:13] Nice. Yeah, I just, I I just, you know, um, um, hype him up basically. 

[00:20:16] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. It's, uh, it's a great way to meet people. It's a good way to help help someone who's in need. And yeah, I think you have, it's not just, it's not just about, um, Mental, like mental illnesses. Right. It's actually, you actually do events for, um, corporate events as well, right?

[00:20:35] Chris Dacanay: Correct. Yeah. So the whole part of SOS was, you know, people think, yeah, it's just all mental health stuff. It's not really, I mean, we wanna connect in any way, shape, or form that's gonna talk to your audience, and that's, that's the end goal. The end goal would be that. But then also coupled with things that I did.

[00:20:52] So during Covid I got myself certified as a mindfulness coach. Nice. So I do, um, meditation. Yeah. Yeah, a bit of [00:21:00] NLP as well. Um, this one was specifically around mindfulness. So more, more specifically around me, meditation, um, the present, the actual present moment, Um, and just really understanding how you are thinking and what you are executing on that thought.

[00:21:13] Yeah. And, uh, yeah, and for me, um, I think coaching is probably one of the things that I really enjoy the most. Coaching people one on one, on both the personal side and also people have, because again, because of during Covid, they all wanna be entrepreneurs. They all wanna do their own business, which is cool.

[00:21:28] Um, and I just, yeah. And I just coach them, you know, whether they're doing an e-commerce or they need a website and just, yeah. And just basically help them out and, uh, yeah. Do a, do a one-on-one coaching for 

[00:21:37] Carlo Selorio: him. That's awesome. Mm. It's, it's, um, I think all your skills have gone, I think from your working background mm-hmm.

[00:21:43] to like, I think your youth. From the youth services that you used to do with Y F C and all that. I think it's come around and it's, it's a skill that's learned now. Yeah, exactly. And I, I think I've learned a lot from being part of mm-hmm. , the youth [00:22:00] groups as well, so Yeah. 

[00:22:01] Chris Dacanay: Yeah. I agree. I agree. I always turn, turn to the foundations.

[00:22:04] I think everyone needs to have a foundation. Yeah. When, when it's starting something. And I always turn to the time when I was leading, um, kfc by the way, you know, I, I, I led a couple of KFC international camps with, you know, Mission, Mission partners over in Phil's and they to come here to Sydney and Yeah, we do a camp in Roseville or whatever and did C but never went onto the SFC approach, but we did campus.

[00:22:24] Yeah. Um, but you know, I think, I think one of the things that I always go back to with y c just to end that point, was. We look at our own backyard, whether it's Blacktown, Ville, Kellyville, wherever you live, right? Banks, it's like, like, yeah, Bankstown. But it's like we do Y F C and, and with y c. From what I've seen back then to what I've seen now, not a lot has changed in terms of like expanding that reach and that community.

[00:22:50] Like if I walk out to Blacktown and talk to 10 people, they probably don't even know who YC is, Right. Because we we're not as present. Yeah. You know, there's not a store there. There's not, It's not multicultural. [00:23:00] Not multicultural. If, if, if I, I don't know if it's still the same, just Filipinos and one Australian, you know, it's like, For me, I think we live in a multicultural world where it's like we're in Blacktown and there's a, a refugee camp, you know, like out here, you know, for Sudanese.

[00:23:12] Yeah. Like work with, work with the groups, work with the units. You know, I don't know if you remember, but I, I, when I was leading yc, um, I and a couple of other leaders, we came up with the interfaith tour, right? Where we actually went to a Buddhist temple, a Sikh temple, you know, us Christians and Catholics then went to, um, the one in the gal mosque, right.

[00:23:29] In Auburn. You know, just understand, just understand culture and how they practice, you know, culture and all that stuff. And I think that just needs to evolve more. 

[00:23:35] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think it's, it's great. The, the youth, youth for Christ at the time is good. It's help, it's helped me as a person. Yeah. It's helped me and, um, I think with.

[00:23:47] Or the other things that's happened, I think, um, there's, there's always more people that we can reach out to, right? Yep. A hundred percent. Um, what makes your business stand out from your competitors if you have [00:24:00] competitors here? 

[00:24:00] Chris Dacanay: Look, I think there's always gonna be a competitor. I, I, I, I don't really search who the competitors are out there.

[00:24:06] I think, um, I think when I did sos um, in about mid covid one, maybe even to Covid two, like 20 21, 20 22, then I started hearing more groups doing their own thing. Yeah. And, and I was like, That's awesome. You know, and, and keep doing that man, because like, I mean, there, there is so much room for growth to empower a community.

[00:24:24] Blacktown is one of the largest councils in all of New South Wales, in all of Australia. As a matter of fact, that's like 350,000 people here. And if I just wanna capture Blacktown, then I wanna capture Blacktown and just capture that part. Yeah. And then you've got other groups, you know, who wanna capture and draw it and whatever, and they wanna do their own thing.

[00:24:44] And I said, Whatever it takes, you know, because look at, look at our youth. You got kids? Yeah. Look at, look at the youth and look at the news that you see day in, day out, kids getting stabbed, you know, um, robbery, um, stolen cars, et cetera, et cetera. It's like, when is this ever gonna change? Now that I have a daughter, my mindset says [00:25:00] change.

[00:25:00] Yeah. It's like I, I wanna surround her with a proper, empowering group and, uh, a community that supports her and help. If, if she's gonna be the one to take over what I'm doing here with sos, then so be it. You know what I mean? So she can do everything that I've done and I want to create that path for her so that the foundation's been set and then she can run off and, you know, take it to where it needs to be taken off.

[00:25:25] But I think there's more work to be done. There's never, I don't look at them as competitors. Competitors, I just look at 'em as a, as another, uh, movement, you know? Um, that I think could inspire people and whatever, whichever angle they, they go to and, which is great. Yeah. Um, but I, I, I've never phased with what's going on around me, man.

[00:25:40] I just stick to my own lane. Yeah. That's 

[00:25:42] Carlo Selorio: awesome. Yeah. I think it's, Especially with the work that you're doing. Yeah. It's, if we can help one person, if another group can help another person, Right, then it's, it's, it's it's a win-win. It's a win-win for everyone, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Um, going, growing up or even now mm-hmm.

[00:25:56] what motivates you daily? 

[00:25:57] Chris Dacanay: I mean, look, it's uh, a lot of the changes that [00:26:00] I've seen in my own personal growth during SOS from 2016 to where we are today. What motivates me now, literally in this second, is my daughter and my wife and our little family. That's it, right? Sure. I have faith. Sure, I have a goal, but I think what truly motivates me now is whatever I'm doing, as long as I'm adding value and putting food on the plate, uh, food on the table, and I'm allowing them to.

[00:26:33] See what the future's gonna look like, whether I'm gonna be, you know, saving for a house and you know, getting a house one day and this and that and the other. Right now it's all about experiences for us. So if we can travel here or go there, or even just ride a tram because we haven't ridden the new trams.

[00:26:49] Yeah. Go and do it. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Like absolutely. It's all, all that stuff. And I think a lot of that has been in, Yeah, a lot of that has been, um, motivated because of what my dad [00:27:00] has gone through in the last couple of years. Yeah. What I had seen him and then what I've seen with a lot of people, and again, you know, with losing my cousin, a lot of those things, it's like, life is so short and we've heard it before, you know, it's cliche, but it's like, well, what are you actually doing about it?

[00:27:14] Then? Your life is so short. How are you taking that narrative? You know, and, and running it your own way, you know, whether you're doing the business or a podcast like, dude, if you just wanna do podcasts all day, great. You know, make it, make it your thing. You know what I mean? But for me, what motivates me is making sure that, um, that they're safe and that there's a future that I'm building.

[00:27:35] And that way we're building together. 

[00:27:37] Carlo Selorio: And you're building memories. Building memories. It's all about, it's all about memories, man. Yeah. It's, uh, it's a big thing for my, my own family. So we love to travel. It's like, it's. We love our, our place is actually Hawaii, so we love to go to Hawaii. I love that. I love 

[00:27:50] Chris Dacanay: that.

[00:27:51] That's my place too, man. 

[00:27:52] Carlo Selorio: It really is. It's just something that we look forward to. Even just like different memories that you make as a family, you know, It [00:28:00] sticks to the, to their mind. It's, it's in the back of mind. It's when we sit down on the table having dinner, we go back to memories and say, I remember when we did that, when we remember when we went to Fiji and we did all this.

[00:28:14] It's, it's about making. Lasting memories that they'd be able to pass on to their, to their family when they grow 

[00:28:21] Chris Dacanay: up. Yeah. And look, and I think to add a twist to that, but it's a positive twist. I think also with what we are doing now in this forum, like a podcast level, and when you're doing community work, you make the memories there and there and there.

[00:28:35] You don't need to go and have a, a flamboyant trip or whatever. Right? That's true. Yeah. Like you can have a coffee, like try this one day, you go have a coffee with a guy, um, in the library who's, you know, always you always sick. Cause I used to work in the library, right? Like, not work in the library, but work in my job, but then always wanna base myself in the way because it's just concentration mode.

[00:28:54] And I just saw always this group of Sudanese guys just playing chess. And I was like, That's [00:29:00] awesome. You know what I mean? One day and I should have done it. Then one day I was gonna ask if I could join, you know what I mean? And just, and just have a laugh and just, and just do that because the.

[00:29:08] Authenticity approach to that. It's like there's no, there's no agenda. Money come by. 

[00:29:12] Yeah. 

[00:29:13] Carlo Selorio: Money come by, money 

[00:29:13] Chris Dacanay: come by it. It's one of those moments, like, and then you walk away and you're like, Wow, that was amazing. Like, I, I would never have done that. You know what I mean? But now I've done it. It's like, wow.

[00:29:21] That's, that's the memory, that's the experience, you know, that you can't buy. 

[00:29:24] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. It's um, I think a lot of, Yeah. Even sometimes weekend comes, because at the moment my kids play basketball, so it's always based around basketball. So we are trying, Yeah. Everything's all for basketball. Yeah. But trying to find other avenues to enjoy as a family now, so, Okay.

[00:29:44] Saturday, Sundays. Yeah. Go, go find something. Last week we went to park markets, You know, it's like little things, right? Little things that you do. I love it. I love it. That's good, man. Um, Going forward. Mm-hmm. , um, what, what are your big goals mm-hmm. for your business in the next, let's say [00:30:00] three to 10 years?

[00:30:01] Chris Dacanay: Look, um, it's been my goal since day do. Um, because there wasn't anything like that, um, around when I was going through, you know, all that dark stuff. Um, three to 10 years. Look, I think I wanna dial it even closer to that, to be honest, but I think a, a wellness center is, is certainly in reach. Nice, Nice. Um, a proper, proper wellness center, not.

[00:30:18] You know, a wellness center with a basketball court and this and that, It's like, no, no, it's, this is a proper wellness center that's catered for your mindfulness, um, um, your mental health. Sure. Where you have, um, an area for people who wanna do yoga and stuff like that. Uh, or people who, um, there's an area there for first time parents, you know, and getting some consultation.

[00:30:39] Um, but then it's going to be something that I don't think I've seen before where it's just an open door policy, kind of like an Anytime Fitness nice. But, but for more so from a, um, retreat center kind of thing. 

[00:30:51] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. I think that's something that's maybe needs to be done. It needs to be done, I think. Yeah.

[00:30:59] It's, it's a [00:31:00] great goal to achieve if when you get there, I'm not gonna say if, when you get there, um, appreciate it because I know that you'll, you'll get there and, um, I know that Oh, you, you've got big things for you and your family. Um, 

[00:31:11] Chris Dacanay: yeah, definitely, man, I appreciate it. It's definitely something that I think that I've been working on.

[00:31:17] Sure. There's been some rough drafts of like, you know, how, how I like to, to look at it and picture it. And actually another, another, um, group leader, uh, won't mention his name or the, the group that he's part of, but yeah, he actually mentioned the exact same thing to me and I just said, Man, that's cool, man.

[00:31:31] You know, you do yours, you know, all good. You know, it's not like, Oh, I'm, I'm gonna start McDonald's and whatever. I'm like, I don't really care. Like you change those people that circle. There's so many people that you can still impact man, like you do. You, you know, And I'm just happy. I'm happy that he's actually doing it as well.

[00:31:44] Yeah, 

[00:31:45] Carlo Selorio: it's. Some, sometimes people just need to step out and do what they've been yearning to do. You know? That's right, 

[00:31:53] Chris Dacanay: man. Yeah. Just be un unapologetic with that approach and just, just go for it, man. Like, what's, what's the worst that's gonna happen? You're gonna fail. Great. [00:32:00] Okay, cool. Well, at least you tried it, right?

[00:32:01] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. It's always, it's always an experience. That's right. If you, if you wanna do something and you get rejected, then it's okay. It's, it's an experience, right? 

[00:32:11] Chris Dacanay: Yep. Yep. You'll never know. 

[00:32:13] Carlo Selorio: You'll never know. Another, you'll never know unless you try. Even like, let's you know about this podcast I've never told anyone as well.

[00:32:20] Mm-hmm. , it's, I think it's about, it's been 10 years I've been wanting to start a podcast. Wow. I wanted to. To speak to people, my friends especially. Yeah. Just to be able to see what they are. Especially now that we're at a age where we are, you're seeing your friends starting their own businesses. So, and just being able to reach out to the different communities and help.

[00:32:42] Mm-hmm. help, um, champion people who are actually doing things to help the economy grow. 

[00:32:49] Chris Dacanay: Yeah, man. Just celebrate, celebrate, um, the people that are working, even if it's the same industry. Even if you consider them your competitor, celebrate it, man. Like, yeah, like enough is enough. When we started going, [00:33:00] Oh man, like, you know, he's got better products than me, or he's got a better process than me, then who cares?

[00:33:04] You know, At the end of the day, is your podcast gonna be the greatest podcast? Maybe. But at the same time, it's gonna be like, You got your own thing going. You got your own way that you wanna do it. That's right. Then just run with it, bro. Yeah. You know, there's no perfect way there's any progress. 

[00:33:19] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. And it's, I think it's like reaching out to like friends, you know, friends.

[00:33:26] I think I've reached out to high school friends who I haven't seen for over 25, 30 years. Perfect, bro. Yeah. And it's like, have a reunion. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, yeah, I've reached out to him, I think Pepe, who's, um, who's one of my high school friends when I was in Canberra. So we actually thought of doing a reunion for our, for our, for our grade anyway, So it's Yeah.

[00:33:46] Reaching out to people. Yeah. Seeing, seeing what, what they're about. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Um, another question for you. Sure. Um, who were your influences growing? 

[00:33:55] Chris Dacanay: Yeah, that's a good question. I think my influences, um, now in [00:34:00] retrospect, uh, as I look back on my life is, you know, it's definitely my mom and dad.

[00:34:02] Um, you know, despite, even though, uh, the, the childhood that I had, you know, going up with, with, with an abusive, uh, household. Yeah. Uh, and also mentally exhausting household cuz you know, you, you would see it and get impacted. Um, you know, I I look back on it and, you know, to, to have what I have to be in this country wouldn't be without them.

[00:34:17] Right. Without all this sacrifice looking, you know, X amount of hours, x amount of jobs just to get us to where we, you know, we are today. And from a personal sense, absolutely. That's, that's still my, my, um, in inspiration. You know, both of them having a stroke, you know, mom doing what she can and still living her best life.

[00:34:35] Sure. They had their separation and they're not together officially, but. I think for the most part it was, it was about how we grew up and how they, how, yeah. How they taught us to be just open, enjoy life. Yeah. Okay. You know, we had our troubles, but my household, I feel like even though that all that stuff happened wasn't really strict, you know, and, and I think for that, I [00:35:00] still say wow, like I can't believe I got the life that I got.

[00:35:04] Cause I was, I was in trouble a lot, you know? You know what I mean? Like with like, you know, with law and all that stuff like, you know, legal stuff, you know, like back then, you know, cuz me and my brother were just crazy. We were crazy in Ranwick grow. Like, we would, we would spray paint buses, shopping centers, you know what I mean?

[00:35:18] Which would steal money, all that stuff, bro. We, we'd get caught, you know, half the time. But anyway. Is definitely, um, number one. Um, you know, things that obviously motivate me is, you know, my, my wife and my daughter. Um, because again, that's my foundation. That's me now. That's, that's what I have to provide.

[00:35:32] Um, you know, I'm that guy. Um, but from a career and steady mindset, um, perspective in terms of business acumen, I think Gary V has been a big, big influence in me. Um, I met him twice. 

[00:35:43] Carlo Selorio: Yeah, I've seen some pictures. I was like, Wow. 

[00:35:46] Chris Dacanay: Yeah, he's cool man. He's cool. He's, he's very down to worth and yeah, he's 

[00:35:49] Carlo Selorio: jealous.

[00:35:49] I, man, he got, he got to meet Gary 

[00:35:51] Chris Dacanay: v . Yeah, he's cool. He's very, very cool. Very down to worth. And, you know, you've seen, I'm sure you've seen these videos and read these books and, you know, again, uh, a lot of the stuff that I do now [00:36:00] and the way that I think is because of that, um, but also from. Um, money perspective and finance perspective.

[00:36:05] Grand Cardone has been someone that I've been following a lot. Um, you know, he's, um, you know, the founder of 10 X. Yeah. But, um, he's a, he's a real estate mogul. Um, but I don't know if you knew, but in his forties, fifties, he was heavily, heavily into drugs. Um, so he was, uh, caught up in a lot of stuff and he only had the epiphany of real estate about mid forties to late forties.

[00:36:24] So that's when he started really growing his empire. Where he is now, he wasn't, he was not that 30 years ago. Right. So I think he's, I think his, his portfolio is about 4 billion now or something like that. 

[00:36:35] Carlo Selorio: Well, it's never too late to start business or start to grow 

[00:36:37] Chris Dacanay: your No, it's never man. But he, he's, he, he, he is where he is today because his mindset.

[00:36:43] Okay. I did all the drugs and I did all that stuff, but I'm not gonna stay, stay down. I'm gonna change my life, change it forever and actually do something. Right. Not just talk about it, you know, know, in forums like this, but go away, take some notes and then make it actionable. Yeah. Take action from it. Yeah, exactly.[00:37:00]

[00:37:00] Exactly. So yeah, that's probably to this day, that's, that's probably my key inspirations, man. 

[00:37:04] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. They're, yeah. Your parents always, they're the one that, that help you grow up shape who you are. And those two, two, business inspiration and Gary V and Grand Cardone, they, they are their inspiration to many people.

[00:37:23] Yeah. They've, they've changed a lot of lives. 

[00:37:25] Chris Dacanay: They have. They're not everyone's cup of tea. Yeah. But, but they, Yeah, it works for me. 

[00:37:29] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. Oh, look, yeah. They, they, I, I like, I, I haven't followed Greg Cardone as much. I know I've followed him because I, I follow a lot of, um, online entrepreneurs and he's been, um, helping some of them as well.

[00:37:41] Chris Dacanay: So, yeah. I mean, I mean, there's been so many that's come up. I mean, I'm sure they've been doing work like, I think Simon Sinek, Sinek, there's, um, Goggins, right. David Goggins is crazy. Like, you know, even just him running a hundred Ks a day or whatever the hell he does. But even just that, I think he's coming to Sydney next in January, January, February.

[00:37:57] But, um, you know, you, you take what you get from these entrepreneurs, but some [00:38:00] of them, even David Goggins, he doesn't wanna be called. You know, someone who's inspiring or whatever, he's just, he's just, Okay, well if you're like hearing my shit, you know, that's, that's how we talk. He's like, Okay, well I'll talk.

[00:38:07] You know, But at the same time, he's like, I'm not, I don't wanna be your hero. I want, I don't wanna be that, you know, you be your hero, you know, for, for yourself, for your family. Yeah. But, yeah. Okay, cool. You, you can, you can follow me and you can read my book and all that stuff. But I think, I think for him in losing all that weight that he did, and then changing his mindset and how he's unbreakable basically.

[00:38:26] Yeah. You know, in any situation because he's, you know, he's military and all army trained and all that stuff, but, but yeah, man, yeah, that's, that's me. I mean, of course the, the number one also, uh, person that I forgot to add there that really I should, um, should be also part of that number, number one, number two place was, was my cousin Edgar.

[00:38:40] Um, I wouldn't be here today from an SOS perspective if, if it weren't for him. You know, he really is the guy that spearheaded this idea as well. Um, you know, I got, I got his details, you know, when he, um, the day that he was born, the day that he passed, you know, and he, like, he liked, um, uh, silver chair. Oh no, no, silver what chair, What is it?

[00:38:56] A red Hot Chili, Peppers, . That's all I got. I got, I got that Lazed cuz I had [00:39:00] to, you know, because I, I needed to make sure that he was always with me. But dude, like, even though he went through chemo Carlo, there'd be times that literally he went through chemo and then that afternoon or the very next day, he'll still ask you, Hey, let's catch up, right?

[00:39:14] Yeah. This is a guy going through chemo where you have your friend who had like a mad piss up on Friday night and he won't even call you to catch up, you know, probably until the next couple of months. You know, you have normal friends who don't even follow up. With you. Like one, one test that I was saying to one of my friends recently was, if you really wanna test your community, your circle, your close friends, have a look at your phone and see how many people called you this week.

[00:39:44] Yeah. , 

[00:39:45] Carlo Selorio: that's a very good 

[00:39:46] Chris Dacanay: test. Seriously. And don't include your wife. Yeah. You know what I mean? Don't include your wife or your parents gonna, you like, Wow, two people only called me this week. Yeah. Right. And then you, you, you work on an average Okay, per week, per month for the next [00:40:00] six months. Who are the people that I'm interacting with?

[00:40:02] And that really goes okay. And you know, the law of averages and what they say, you are the average of the five people that you hang out with. That's right. Right. So, yeah. 

[00:40:11] Carlo Selorio: That's awesome. That's. It's, uh, it's something that I'll go have a look and check my phone when, when, when I get off here. So I got, I got a few friends who I still call and from high school 

[00:40:22] Chris Dacanay: just text them in.

[00:40:22] Yeah. That's it. Just text them, bro. Just thinking of you, Ben. 

[00:40:25] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. It's, um, yeah, you never know. I've had a few friends who's passed away who had, we, we didn't, we didn't know they were having mental issues when I was in high school before, before mental mm-hmm. mental, um, problems were, was a thing. Yeah. When And then now, now you look at it as like, wow.

[00:40:42] We were, I wasn't there for them, you know? I agree. 

[00:40:45] Chris Dacanay: I agree. Yeah. We lost a friend in 1999. He jumped off, um, his apartment. Yeah. And he was only Yeah. We're only in year 11. Yeah. 

[00:40:54] Carlo Selorio: You I had, Yeah. I had, uh, two friends who. Who did similar. Mm-hmm. , There [00:41:00] were twins. Um, Wow. Different times that happened, but wow, that's crazy.

[00:41:05] And it's, it's, yeah. It's good to, Yeah. Remind me anyway, to go reach out to friends who are actually need to be reached out on Rich. 

[00:41:16] Chris Dacanay: Yeah. Yeah. Look, I mean, and not, not talking off the same script here, but you know, I mean like, just a literally random call. Like I literally randomly called Nate in Miami.

[00:41:26] Yeah. You know, cause cause my cousin, um, my cousin's cousin wanted to actually go to Miami or New York and I said, Okay, yeah, I think I know someone who lives in Miami. And then I was like, looking through Facebook, I was like, That's right Nate, Nate lives in Miami. Yeah. And so, yeah, so we did a Zoom call, you know, and he's like, Hey, what, what the hell?

[00:41:39] Like, you know, what are you doing? You know, Nate's still the old Nate. That was like 

[00:41:41] Carlo Selorio: two ago. Yeah, he's still the same. He's still the same. I think the last time I caught up with him was Yeah, five, six years ago. Yeah. We had dinner with me and them. Oh, nice. It's, it's been a long time since I last seen him on.

[00:41:56] Yeah. I need to go reach out to see how he is. Yeah, man. Um, okay, let's, um, [00:42:00] let's go check out a few other things, a few more questions before Sure. Before you, you, you go anyway. Um, how do you want to impact the world and what kind of legacy do you want to have? 

[00:42:11] Chris Dacanay: Yeah, I think, um, the impact that I really wanna make on this life that we are living now on this earth is to know that SOS or me myself gave, gave a little bit of more care factor for the community, tried a little bit more harder to try and do something about the community.

[00:42:29] And when I say the community, it's literally just the com community around me. I'm not trying to change the world. And I think that's what people get misconstrued. You know, you you try and start something so you can change the world. Like just change the world around you and go from there. Right. Sometimes you can't even, it's just the 

[00:42:43] Carlo Selorio: suburb.

[00:42:44] You change the word, change your suburb. Right, 

[00:42:45] Chris Dacanay: Change the suburb. Yeah, exactly. Change, you know, the post code that you live in, work on that, you know, And the legacy that I wanna leave is that, Yeah. Like we want to be able to go back. I want people to be able to reflect in saying there was this community sos [00:43:00] that really tried to give back.

[00:43:02] To the individuals that were in that community to say, You're not alone. You know, there are other people going through what you're going through. And this platform was there to connect. And that's, that's really the legacy. And if that legacy goes to my daughter, then great. You know, But if she has, you know, other aspirations, then so be it.

[00:43:19] Yeah. 

[00:43:21] Carlo Selorio: It's, uh, a great legacy to, to, to pass on to mm-hmm. to the others who takes your mental, either your family Yep. Or friends. Right. Um, what's your top three advice to aspiring business owners or entrepreneurs? 

[00:43:34] Chris Dacanay: Yeah, cool man. Um, firstly, be humble. And I think in line with that, don't inflate your ego when you see progress, right.

[00:43:40] Um, people get caught up on that and saying, Oh yeah, you know, you know, I'm this, I'm that, and, you know, and start doing all cloud chasing and whatever, and the whole humility goes away. I think 0.1, 0.2. Expect the unexpected, right? So whilst you might have a good platform, or a great idea, or a great concept, or even really a good product, you can't [00:44:00] expect your family or your friends to just, you know, buy or get, you know, um, invest in you or whatever it may be.

[00:44:05] Yeah. Those are the unexpected, uh, expected events that can happen and it will happen. Um, and, and go through that, you know, go through that journey because that's part of failure, which is, which is fine, and I think ex execute on the idea that when you're writing up your mission statement or whatever it may be, your business goals Yeah.

[00:44:24] Execute on that. Because you get stuck on ideas for so long, and I know so many people who wanna start something, but they just get on the draft. Yeah. And then, then get onto the next page. You said yourself for 10 years. Yeah. You're sitting on the idea. So it's, it's awesome that you're here now. Yeah. You know, But, um, but I think yeah.

[00:44:41] Those, those are three key things that I learned from Yeah. That I applied and then that I, I also teach as well. 

[00:44:47] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. Nice. It's, uh, it's great. Great advice for small businesses or starting entrepreneurs. Yeah. It's, it's simple yet it, it needs to be done. Right. 

[00:44:56] Chris Dacanay: Needs to be done. Before we go, I do have a, I do have a, um, a [00:45:00] trivia for you.

[00:45:00] Yeah. It's a fun quiz. Yeah. You ready? Yeah. Um, so what do you think was my first job? There's five options. Okay. A, a paper boy. B it Sales. C, Pizza Hut, delivery Boy, D a door, knocker for Optus, as an example. And then E a Windscreen. Windscreen wiper. Boy, what do you think? What was my first job here in Australia?

[00:45:32] First 

[00:45:32] Carlo Selorio: job letter box Drop. Like paper boy. Yeah, 

[00:45:39] Chris Dacanay: Paper boy. No. So I, but I did do that job. I did all those jobs except the Pizza Hut delivery driver. So I did a paper boy. But my first job, going back to the question was actually me and my brother back in Randwick, we were windscreen wiper boys. So we would actually go with our bottle of [00:46:00] water, little bit of detergent, go on someone's screen, and then wipe it.

[00:46:04] Wipe it with a. And that like, similar 

[00:46:07] Carlo Selorio: in Philippines, like what they do. Yeah, man. Yeah. 

[00:46:10] Chris Dacanay: Nice. So you can actually go Now if, if you were to go to the east side now, like, you know, Randwick and all that area, you'd still see the, some of those guys there. Yeah. You know, they show a bottle and be like, Oh yeah, you screw and you'd ski 'em a dollar, $2 or whatever.

[00:46:23] We were doing it for 20 cents back then, bro. 5 cents, 10 cents, 20 cents. We would collect it and then we'll play street fighter. Yeah, 

[00:46:29] Carlo Selorio: you gotta hustle. Right? You gotta hustle. That's where it all 

[00:46:30] Chris Dacanay: began. Right. That's 

[00:46:30] Carlo Selorio: where it all began. Nice. Um, another question, another fun question. Um, if you could recommend one book or a few books for our listeners Yep.

[00:46:40] Um, what would it be 

[00:46:41] Chris Dacanay: and why? Two books, man, two books that made me. Grow into the person that I am from business sense, but then also from a sense of, um, having no fear right. The approach. So Gary v, Crush it, you must have that. Mm-hmm. , it's, it's a yellow book. Um, and then also Grand Cardone's 10 X Rule. 10 x.[00:47:00]

[00:47:00] Nice. So those are the two key books that I think will set you apart from any, any mindset type of thing, because it's like a crush. It gives you all these examples of all these entrepreneurs that are doing what you're doing, but they're just doing a little bit more different and they're getting a little bit more successful.

[00:47:17] Right. Which I'm sure you to a certain degree, you wanna be also in that, in that, um, mind mindset. You know, you wanna be successful in what you do. Um, the 10 X rule and the 10 x book that Craig Cardone built was just fundamentally what every salesperson should have in their toolkit. That's what I needed to take away into my corporate life.

[00:47:35] Yeah, yeah, 

[00:47:35] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. It's um, I've gotta get, I think I have one of, um, I think Jab Jab. Yep. Jab, Jab. Ride Hook. Right. Hook is, I got, but I haven't got Crush It yet. 

[00:47:43] Chris Dacanay: So Yeah. That's the Green book, right? The Jab, Jab, yeah. Yeah. I gotta get, Yeah, definitely get crushed bro. And get a 10 x man, get a 10 x grant. Grant has a lot of books, but those are the two that I use from Gary and, uh, Grant, definitely.

[00:47:57] Awesome. 

[00:47:57] Carlo Selorio: That's perfect. Um, if the listeners [00:48:00] need help, The business or any question, or they wanna work with you, with your business, what is the best way to get you? 

[00:48:10] Chris Dacanay: Yeah, I appreciate it, man. Um, right now I've actually detoxed from social media and not, um, doing as much on social media purely as a, it's, it's part of my.

[00:48:18] Um, meditation and mindfulness retreat between now and next year. Yep. So really pulling back on social media, but if people do wanna connect, it's just on ww dot suits or or one word. That's just my website, direct website. And then they can get me and book me for either one-on-one consultation.

[00:48:38] We can do a team thing, you know, um, a group thing, whatever it is that you're trying to drive for your audience or for your own personal goals. Um, we can do anything from LinkedIn as an example, where people wanna delve into, um, how to, how to be a, a professional LinkedIn profile or even as a standout, some people don't even have a LinkedIn profile, but they wanna get a job [00:49:00] and like a proper job, like a proper actual, um, corporate job is what I meant.

[00:49:04] And I said, Well, you need to start somewhere where LinkedIn can actually sell. Sell you some roles and then, you know, sell yourself that way. Yeah. 

[00:49:12] Carlo Selorio: LinkedIn is like the new, new seek. It's like you 

[00:49:15] Chris Dacanay: It is, it is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well it is. Yeah. And like, I think it can be done, it can be done in two ways. You can sell yourself that way or you can really connect with people in that way.

[00:49:23] Um, I've been fortunate enough to, to have LinkedIn ever since inception. Yeah. So I'm one of the master trainers for LinkedIn from like way back. Yeah. So, yeah. So I think. That way is probably the best way to reach me. Other than that, Instagram not really on as much. Um, I've got about five accounts with different type of sos sos, um, brands.

[00:49:41] Um, but um, yeah, Facebook, I'm not, I'm not on as much, um, for the year. Yeah. Between now and next year. Yeah. Yeah. Great. 

[00:49:46] Carlo Selorio: What I'll do is, um, I'll, I'll leave all your details in the show notes. I'll get, get your website suits or Yep. And, um, leave your LinkedIn, um, um, handle there as well so that they can appreciate it, man.

[00:49:59] They can [00:50:00] go, um, hit you up when they, when they can. Yep. No, I appreciate co. Not a problem. Any last words? 

[00:50:05] Chris Dacanay: Hey, look, I, I was just gonna say, just keep doing what you're doing, Carlo man, I, I admire people who just take that next. Always. So I think, um, the, the best feedback, um, that you get is probably the best feedback that you can accept, right?

[00:50:17] Sometimes people don't like to hear what they don't want to hear, but I think as part of growth, if, if you are open to constructive criticism, take it and then run with it, and then just do something with that. I think, um, with what you're doing in podcasts and just reaching out to, you know, wider audiences, I think you said, you know, 200 people listening that this, this is amazing.

[00:50:35] You know, that's what you wanna be able to do to share the content to help other people, man. So keep doing what you're doing, bro. 

[00:50:40] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. Thank you very much. And like, I admire what you've done and I admire appreciate it and what you've done with sos and hope that you grow it to, to what you want it to.

[00:50:53] Appreciate it bro, and I think it's time for us to catch up sometime some dance lessons or something, 

[00:50:58] Chris Dacanay: right? No, no, no. You ain't gonna get no dance [00:51:00] lessons from me bro. You better call and ERO boys come down, 

[00:51:05] Carlo Selorio: they still dance. I think so, yeah, 

[00:51:09] Chris Dacanay: These days 

[00:51:10] Carlo Selorio: I still see Jeffrey on um, on social and TikTok and Instagram doing him.

[00:51:15] Chris Dacanay: Yeah. Yeah. Well I saw them in the city practicing. They were like, they were like filming and I said 4 63 is still going. Jesus, where's cheeky bums? You know what I 

[00:51:24] Carlo Selorio: mean? Hey Ron, Ron's gonna be in the show as well, so Yeah, and he's probably 

[00:51:29] Chris Dacanay: gonna bring his kids at that point too. . 

[00:51:31] Carlo Selorio: Yeah. Thank you very much again man.

[00:51:32] Chris, I'll see you soon. Ds and right man. Yeah. Thank you again for being part 

[00:51:37] Chris Dacanay: of the show. My pleasure, bro. Take care man. Thank care. Take care.